K & N Commercial - New Intake? - Not For Me Though :D
12-09-01, 07:01 AM
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K & N Commercial - New Intake? - Not For Me Though :D
I'm not pursuing this, but this is for those of you who may want an intake without the ECU.....
I saw this commercial while watching Speedvision this morning.
K&N makes an intake called an FTPK intake, or something similar, with a K&N filter on the end. Check their website for details.
Visualize an SRT, then color it black; it looked plastic actually.
The interesting thing was, the car they showed it mounted on was a GS4! I saw the engine cover with the L, and the unmistakeable the bend in the intake near the engine intake.
A couple of items to consider - I didn't see a heatshield in the 3 second shot, and I didn't catch them mentioning an ECU to go along with it, so in the big scheme of things, not sure if its really a valid HP upgrade or not.
YMMV
I saw this commercial while watching Speedvision this morning.
K&N makes an intake called an FTPK intake, or something similar, with a K&N filter on the end. Check their website for details.
Visualize an SRT, then color it black; it looked plastic actually.
The interesting thing was, the car they showed it mounted on was a GS4! I saw the engine cover with the L, and the unmistakeable the bend in the intake near the engine intake.
A couple of items to consider - I didn't see a heatshield in the 3 second shot, and I didn't catch them mentioning an ECU to go along with it, so in the big scheme of things, not sure if its really a valid HP upgrade or not.
YMMV
12-09-01, 07:15 AM
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I have seen a website that carries this K&N FTPK product. The website states a 14hp increase. No mention of an ECU and at a price of $445.00 this is one exspensive air filter.
12-09-01, 07:21 AM
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14hp increase? Geez, thats a lot from just a filter w/o ECU.
K&N being a good, reputable company though, I'd like to believe them, but I hope they've got their claim justified
K&N being a good, reputable company though, I'd like to believe them, but I hope they've got their claim justified
12-09-01, 08:50 AM
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Attached is the pic of the GS400 air intake from the K&N website.. As you can see it does have a heat shield.. According to the website this intake gives you 11 hp gain..
12-09-01, 09:48 AM
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Even though I don't have ANY data to back it up, my personal logic tells me that the engine wont put out a discernable amount of additioal HP if there is no ECU correction allowed for the additional air flow....
I would imagine a majority of these products are designed for pre-EFI engines, when all you had to worry about was gas, air, and your carb.....
But for that kind of $, heck, just spend another hundy, and get SRTs which includes the ECU.
I would imagine a majority of these products are designed for pre-EFI engines, when all you had to worry about was gas, air, and your carb.....
But for that kind of $, heck, just spend another hundy, and get SRTs which includes the ECU.
12-09-01, 05:02 PM
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Hi guys,
coupla mths ago called K&N inquiring about this intake which i also saw on speedvision.The sales person told me they do not sell intakes for the gs 400.When i mentioned i had seen it advertised on speedvision he said it was not for a gs400.So call them up , maybe this time they do.
clive.
coupla mths ago called K&N inquiring about this intake which i also saw on speedvision.The sales person told me they do not sell intakes for the gs 400.When i mentioned i had seen it advertised on speedvision he said it was not for a gs400.So call them up , maybe this time they do.
clive.
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12-09-01, 05:18 PM
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under the k&n web site under Q&A it says if you disconect the battery the factory ecu will readjust to the new air and remeasure the fuel and air mixture,if this is so why buy an ecu?
12-09-01, 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by RacingAristo
For me, an intake is an intake. It can only add or even subtract certain number of HP but definitely not 14HP gain. Remember back then people lose HP by using RMM's intakes? Coupled with ECU, 14 HP gain is certainly more reasonable.
For me, an intake is an intake. It can only add or even subtract certain number of HP but definitely not 14HP gain. Remember back then people lose HP by using RMM's intakes? Coupled with ECU, 14 HP gain is certainly more reasonable.
The link below is where I got my info on Horsepower and pricing.
http://suprastore.com/kngsfipinsys.html
12-10-01, 11:08 PM
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Take a look at the K&N website. The online stores that they recommend sell the part for much cheaper. The Marten brothers? (if i can recall the site correctly) sells it for 309.00 free shipping. good deal if you ask me.
12-16-01, 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Is lexon20s statement true?
Seems to make sense.
Is lexon20s statement true?
Seems to make sense.
BTW for you guys up here in Canada you can order this FTPK intake from Canadian Tire for $379.99 CDN.. If I buy one i'll put together a post with my thoughts on the installation in the GS..
Ken
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12-16-01, 02:12 PM
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Ok, I spoke with a Lexus tech and (who's into aftermarket stuff) and he said the unplugging of the ECU, at least on Lexus cars will ONLY correct the fuel map up to a certain point...meaning if you're sucking in 3x the air compared to the stock setup, the ECU is NOT going to put in 3x the fuel just because you "reset" it...if that was the case, there would be NO NEED for a remapped ECU with ANY sort of air intake (even a FI solution like a SuperCharger)...but as we know, that's not the case.
The stock ECU has preset maximums (ceilings) and guess what? With the stock airbox and a CLEAN stock filter, you're hitting that maximum.
Same thing on a Honda...once the filters get dirty, they run just like they did with their dirty stock filter...dirty filters limit air intake...
The stock ECU has preset maximums (ceilings) and guess what? With the stock airbox and a CLEAN stock filter, you're hitting that maximum.
Same thing on a Honda...once the filters get dirty, they run just like they did with their dirty stock filter...dirty filters limit air intake...