RealMarty

I've got L-Tuned springs and shocks on my GS 430 and love what they've done to the handling without sacrificing much in ride quality.

Now, I'd like to reduce the body roll some more and I'm considering TRD sways and perhaps a front STB now that TOMS has one that will fit over the 430's engine cover.

But, I'm concerned that the sways (and STB) will reduce the ride comfort in exchange for the additional body roll resistance.

I've driven in Bitkahuna's car and although it rides great, it's somewhat stiff for my tastes as an everyday driver. But, in addition to the sways and STBs (front and rear) he also has staggered 18s and the lower chasis braces and I'm not sure what is contributing most to the ride harshness.

Any opinions, experiences, etc. with adding just the sways and front STB to the L-Tuned suspension would be appreciated.

Thanks guys.

///MDex

RM,

I should have mine installed EDIT the 29th - I'll do a write up soon thereafter.

I've got: oem 17s, LTuned Susp and Steering, F&R UGO STBs

GS400_PUSHER

Yeah! you do that Dex we love when you post your experiences and stories!

Mr Johnson

IMHO: The LCB helps overall but it's the sways that add the majority of that extra harshness. It won't be as bad with 17" wheels but you are still going to notice a degradation in ride.

I'm afraid there really isn't a way to remove the roll without giving up some of the cushiness. It all depends on what is important to you. I made the tradeoff and never regretted it.

Peter

mooretorque

Marty, Bit and I had this discussion (via CL) a while back. It's da sway bars (upside down or not). I'm likely going to do the front STB even before I L-tune, just on the principal that the stiffer the chassis, the less my dashboard (for instance) will flex and (sooner or later) begin to squeak and rattle. But the STB will not make much difference in body roll, esp not compared to thicker TRD bars.

xsuperjoex

I just ordered my sways from Steve...I can't wait to get them Christmas Eve!!...what a gift huh?!?!

Hey Mooretourque the sways aren't thicker at all..they use a stronger steel that doesn't flex or give as much as the stock ones.


I will also do a write up and hopefully some pictures of my mechanic installing them for me!!

bitkahuna

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They aren't thicker on external diameter, but they do use thicker steel so the INNER diameter is smaller.

SCWells72

I have stock 17s, L-Tuned suspension setup, and TRD sways and lower chassis brace. I added everything in steps, so I definitely know what the deltas are between stock, L-Tuned, and L-Tuned + TRD. If you thought Bit's ride was too harsh for your tastes, stay with L-Tuned only. The sways are the largest contributor to the ride harshness (and firmness, in a good way). I debated taking mine back off for a few weeks after putting them on, but finally decided that pros-to-cons, I wanted them on. Still, for general driving I often think that perhaps L-Tuned suspension with stock sways would be better...

RealMarty

Thanks for the info guys.

I'm still on the fence on this. I'm looking forward to hearing more from those with new installs scheduled. Please post here when you've got more info. Really appreciate it.

bitkahuna

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RealMarty - your impressions about my sways were unfortunately when the front one was upside down of course . I think it's considerably more comfortable now I have it the right way up!

And while I don't think my staggered 18s make much difference, they and the exhaust are noisier than stock of course, and that can influence one's impressions too.

RealMarty

Bit,

Maybe if we have time tommorow we can go for another ride now that the front sway is on right.

See you at 11. I'll bring my 3/8" socket set.

gsintensive

TRD sways really helps out a lot in handling, especially if you are a highway racer.... or you don't like to get stuck within the traffics. IT cuts the bodyroll. = )

the ugly/bad : the fitment, most of the installation done by bodyshops won't secure the brasket that's holding the sways. I know there are many ppl have this same problem. Make sureyou get the best installation there is, Drill holes, put on more screw, or whatever, make sure it is tight and nice so you do'nt have to go through what I've been through.

RealMarty

Well, I drove Bit's car today and it really felt good. It was stiffer than mine, but not excessive. Having the front sway installed correctly made a BIG difference in the handling and transmission of road irregularities.

But, I'm still up in the air on this. It was not as stiff as I remembered it, but I'm not sure it will feel good driving it every day. Not sure how much of the vibration I felt through the wheel was due to the 18s and how much was the sways. Gotta think about this one some more...not sure what I want to do.

P.S. Bit, thanks for everything today.

bitkahuna

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It was great fun! Talk about a 'guy' get together... talked about and played with: home networking, home theater, and cars!

Silver Ghozt

RealMarty,
Do you ever hear the creaking that some are complaining of in the suspension board who have the Ltuned?

thanks,
Zach