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Does the 2001 and 2002 Gs430 come with E- Shift?

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Old 12-22-01, 01:10 AM
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Default Does the 2001 and 2002 Gs430 come with E- Shift?

Does the 2001 and 2002 Gs430 come with E- Shift?

If not, what year did it come with E-Shift?

Was it with the GS 300 or GS400/430
Old 12-22-01, 01:17 AM
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No, 2001 and 2002 GS430s do NOT come with E-shift.

Here is the breakdown:

98-00 GS300 - NO ESHIFT
98-00 GS400 - E-shift

01+ GS300 - E-shift
01+ GS430 - NO ESHIFT

Hope that helps
Old 12-22-01, 02:07 AM
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Isn't that just a pisser?

I hope Toyota brings out a SMG II like system for the next GS...if not, I might have to jump ship...
Old 12-22-01, 09:14 AM
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Default It's really not a big deal...

I had a "manumatic" car before my GS430 (Acura TL) and at first I lamented the lack of E-Shift. Then I started playing with gate shifting and at this point I use it more than I did SportShift on the TL. It's really virtually indistinguishable from other manumatics and the gate is well-designed for smooth, intuitive shifts.

Having said that, after reading about the 0.08 sec shifts on the new M3's SMG, I'd love to see a GS with one too!
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Thanks for all the info guys.

more questions about GS 400 98-00,
1 Does it come in a V6 or V8 engine?
2 What is the lag time in E-shifting?
3 How much Horsepower?
4 0-60 in how many sec.?

Sorry for all these questions, cause I'm planning to buy a used GS4
Old 12-22-01, 11:28 AM
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The GS comes in two flavors, the GS3 and the GS4. Since the current model was introduced, the former, the GS300, has always had an I6 making 220hp/220lb-ft. The latter, formerly the GS400 and now the GS430, has a V8 making 300hp/310-325lb-ft (the GS400 has 310lb-ft; the GS430, 325lb-ft).

The lag time in shifting, whether with E-Shift or gate shifting, is a little under a second on average. In other words, you have to get used to it and build in a slight lead time when using it.

The GS300 0-60 is in the low 7s, I think. The GS4 0-60 is in the high 5s (5.7-5.9). The performance difference between the GS400 and GS430 is rather minimal because the displacement/torque increase is mostly offset by a corresponding weight increase.

Hope this helps,
Scott
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Default GS 400 E-shift

I have a 1998 GS 4, I think I got the first one around western Canada. with aprox 120k miles/ 205k Km I love it. I will never buy a gs 430 cause I'm addicted to the e-shift. It's the only way to go Period. It's a better system than the BMW's because it only Automaticaly shifts out of 1st, then your on your own. It's almost like a true manual but better. I was thinking of getting an M5 But I feel tuned up totally it's The BEST car on the planet. To answer your questions here we go..
1. V8
2. Quicker than a real manual once you figure it out.
3. 300 hp (Stock) - 700 hp (Modified)
4. 5.7 Stock 0-60 (Motor Trend) 1998 / Under 4 seconds modified According to SRT.
Old 12-22-01, 01:21 PM
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ODU2K, you might want to go over to Edmunds Used Car board. You can look at detailed specs, standard equipment and options packages sequentially, and will also have price ranges.

Good luck.
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Originally posted by ODU2K
more questions about GS 400 98-00,
1 Does it come in a V6 or V8 engine?
2 What is the lag time in E-shifting?
3 How much Horsepower?
4 0-60 in how many sec.?

Sorry for all these questions, cause I'm planning to buy a used GS4
Sheez maybe you can save us all a lot of time and just read the information at the following link:

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/lex...tml?id=lin0062
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Originally posted by bitkahuna


Sheez maybe you can save us all a lot of time and just read the information at the following link:

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/lex...tml?id=lin0062
Slap! Slap! Slap!

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Default Re: It's really not a big deal...

Originally posted by SCWells72
I had a "manumatic" car before my GS430 (Acura TL) and at first I lamented the lack of E-Shift. Then I started playing with gate shifting and at this point I use it more than I did SportShift on the TL. It's really virtually indistinguishable from other manumatics and the gate is well-designed for smooth, intuitive shifts.

Having said that, after reading about the 0.08 sec shifts on the new M3's SMG, I'd love to see a GS with one too!
Anyone know what, or where to find the official E.shift specs for the GS? I was thinking about this the other day...I may start some digging.
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Originally posted by manaray
Isn't that just a pisser?

I hope Toyota brings out a SMG II like system for the next GS...if not, I might have to jump ship...


Drool....SMG II

My next car, 2002 M3 Laguna Seca Blue, Convertible W/Bi-Xenons...Already saw one go on ebay for $56k...
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Always use e-shift.The best featute- slow down your car,so you don't use brakes (old habbit, was always driving stick) and have enough torque to accelerate if needed. Other then that it's useless. Time for up- or down shifting is way to slow. Besides, don't know if anyone noticed, for some reason (at least on my car) under the hard acceleration still shifts 200-300 rpm bellow the red line!! Thats 0.1-0.2 seconds at 0-60. Recently I started using manual shifting- same slugishness and, I'm afraid, potentialy dangerous for transmission. I figure, if the time of shifting (even if only 1-st to 2nd gear) can be reduced
by 0.2-0.3 seconds, which is very realistic, plus shift exactly at the red line... . You figure out what it can do to acceleration ##.

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Originally posted by manaray
Isn't that just a pisser?

I hope Toyota brings out a SMG II like system for the next GS...if not, I might have to jump ship...
Someone go see if the Sequential tranny on the MR-S would work on the GS I'm dying to try it out
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Globe - Hmmm, I doubt it would work, but I don't see why Toyota won't develop one for the IS/GS...even the SC...

Enginyr - Yes, the SMG II system is worth drooling over...but I'd rather have Toyota actually make the unit...that way, I know it'll work correctly!


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