Wheel Fitment Guide 2GS/IS-01-05/SC430
#168
Hey I'm the noob to all this fitment stuff your the professional. I always thought offset was big in determining if the wheels can fit which is why my non bbk 4 piston mk4 twin turbo calipers and rotors which are both bigger than what came on the car from factory can no longer fit the factory wheels because they hit the not so big calipers. Look im not trying to get into a debate about this or that all I wanted was some insight into what specs I should look into. I was looking into the ESR SR04 or the SR06 18X9.5 WITH +22 offset up front and out back 18x10.5 +22
#169
Pit Crew
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The short answer is there's no real way to know without getting some undocumented measurements. The SR06 looks like it's more likely to accommodate wider brake calipers than the SR04 based on the curvature of the spokes, but that's just going off a really quick Google Image Search.
Offset is a measurement of the hub mounting surface distance relative to the centerline of the wheel. Brake calipers don't care about the wheel's centerline, they care about the wheel's spokes, and that's why offset doesn't matter.
The problem is that there is no official measurement for that hub mounting surface to the spoke. Wheel manufacturers don't document that, partly because it changes based on where your reference point is on the spoke, the wheel diameter, whether there's a shallow/deep dish variant which sometimes results in changes to the spoke geometry, etc.
As far as caliper clearance goes, your best bet is to find pics of these wheels successfully installed on a Supra TT. Offset is more relevant for fender and spindle arm clearance.
Offset is a measurement of the hub mounting surface distance relative to the centerline of the wheel. Brake calipers don't care about the wheel's centerline, they care about the wheel's spokes, and that's why offset doesn't matter.
The problem is that there is no official measurement for that hub mounting surface to the spoke. Wheel manufacturers don't document that, partly because it changes based on where your reference point is on the spoke, the wheel diameter, whether there's a shallow/deep dish variant which sometimes results in changes to the spoke geometry, etc.
As far as caliper clearance goes, your best bet is to find pics of these wheels successfully installed on a Supra TT. Offset is more relevant for fender and spindle arm clearance.
Last edited by 8M6; 07-08-20 at 02:34 PM.
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#170
Thank u for the informative response I was looking for. I have a little better understanding. It looks like I'm better off going somewhere and have them get the wheels cause these are just the street everyday wheels cause i want some welds for my slicks for when I go to the track. To much wheel specs for me to figure out lol 😆
#171
Fitment check
I have a 02 GS, looking to fit a staggered set of 19's. Car is stock for now, but I plan to get some coil-overs in the Summer. I have three different wheel choices that I'm considering. I'm hoping that you can shed some light on this. I'm guessing that I could do a 245/35 or 255/35 for tire.
Option 1: 19x10 +30 square OR 19x9 +30; 19x10 +30 (Curva C300)
Option 2: 19x9 +30; 19x10 +20 (Enkei GTC02)
Option 3: 19x9 +30; 19x10 +42 (Verde VFF02)
I've used many of the online tools, but the rear is throwing me off. Many thanks in advance.
Option 1: 19x10 +30 square OR 19x9 +30; 19x10 +30 (Curva C300)
Option 2: 19x9 +30; 19x10 +20 (Enkei GTC02)
Option 3: 19x9 +30; 19x10 +42 (Verde VFF02)
I've used many of the online tools, but the rear is throwing me off. Many thanks in advance.
#172
Instructor
Both offset and wheel design can be a factor in clearing calipers. If there are two wheels with the exact same design and size (diameter and width), but one has an offset of +44 and the other +25, what do you think the difference in how they look mounted will be? Will the spokes be closer to the caliper with the +44 or the +25?
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QLex300 (12-08-22)
#175
Nice setup! What size tires the shadow makes it difficult to see the gap difference. How much are you lowered, any handling issues/rub? That seems to the stance that I'll have with 19x9.5 +35 front, 19x10.5 +22 rear
Last edited by gr8bryt; 12-07-22 at 08:08 AM.
#176
The car was sitting on Tien Street Basis Z coilovers so they were adjusted, not necessary set to a specific drop height. If I had to guess it would be something like 1.5 - 2" drop in the front and .5" in the rear.
#178
The fronts are 255/35 18 and rears are 275/35 18. You can see the front pokes out a little bit more than the back. If you go 9.5 wide in the front then I would expect more poke.
The car was sitting on Tien Street Basis Z coilovers so they were adjusted, not necessary set to a specific drop height. If I had to guess it would be something like 1.5 - 2" drop in the front and .5" in the rear.
The car was sitting on Tien Street Basis Z coilovers so they were adjusted, not necessary set to a specific drop height. If I had to guess it would be something like 1.5 - 2" drop in the front and .5" in the rear.
I'm lowered on Megan's and running Whistler kr3's which are 19x9.5 square with 255/35/19's in the rear and was on 235/35/19's in the front. my driver side tire had a leak in the sidewall so wanted to switch both of them out to have even wear. I went to a shop, and they had a pair of 235/35 toyo's, but the guy couldn't stretch them enough to seal on the 9.5 wheel.
my question is, apart from maybe getting another pair of 235/35's and MAYBE having them work, what size tire can I get that would fit the 9.5 wheel without rubbing? I'm currently using 235/45 and they're rubbing like crazy.
these are the 235/35/19 in the front and 255/35/19 in the rear.
#179
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9.5" is in the approved rim range for at least some (probably most) 245/35s, and it's not a great deal taller than 235/35.
If I were in your shoes, I'd keep trying 235/35 for the OD, but barring that, I would try 245/35. I'm not going to promise no rubbing, because 9.5 +22 is a size that just tends to rub the fender liner if you're lowered, unless you have some stretch and/or some camber.
#180
If you don't want to try 235/35, and 235/45 rubs (it is too tall of an OD by quite a lot), then try 245/35.
9.5" is in the approved rim range for at least some (probably most) 245/35s, and it's not a great deal taller than 235/35.
If I were in your shoes, I'd keep trying 235/35 for the OD, but barring that, I would try 245/35. I'm not going to promise no rubbing, because 9.5 +22 is a size that just tends to rub the fender liner if you're lowered, unless you have some stretch and/or some camber.
9.5" is in the approved rim range for at least some (probably most) 245/35s, and it's not a great deal taller than 235/35.
If I were in your shoes, I'd keep trying 235/35 for the OD, but barring that, I would try 245/35. I'm not going to promise no rubbing, because 9.5 +22 is a size that just tends to rub the fender liner if you're lowered, unless you have some stretch and/or some camber.
IF I were going to go with 245/35, the amount of poke I'd get with those would be pretty significant wouldn't it.