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Old 03-12-02, 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by lex400sc
There is no purpose in buying D2R bulbs for kits, they will only reduce light output. Buy D2S. You can however convert D2R to D2S if you already made that mistake. For kits you'll still need to know that your bulb size is 9006 (aka. HB4). The reason why A1s lighting is so scattered is because firstly, no HID optics, and second he hasn't levelled them out, just instaled them. Therefore there is a highly likeliness that he is blinding everyone around him (this doesn't mean you have the brightest lights on the road, it just means yours are the only ones aimed at people's eyes).
one of the picture that i posted was how them beam/aim on the wall so that you guys can see that they not "un-leveled" they aimed where they suppose to, they dont aim on the trees
Old 03-12-02, 05:04 PM
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Here are pics of proper cut off from my friend's OEM HID retrofitted Civic. Notice the lower, sharp distinct cut off line with modified euro-flare.
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Old 03-12-02, 05:06 PM
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Beam pattern has clean edges and well distributed light. RX300 has even more impressive beam pattern.
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Old 03-12-02, 05:08 PM
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Front view of beam pattern...
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Old 03-12-02, 05:15 PM
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These are his retrofits, passenger side from a 2000 LS400 HID ($70 from e-bay), driver side from a 2001 IS300 ($50 from e-bay)
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Old 03-12-02, 05:20 PM
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Check out these high beams......:eek:
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Old 03-12-02, 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by enginyr
Check out these high beams......:eek:
Damn, are those HID...
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Here's another from a JDM HID retrofitted Accord, cleeeaan...

*Note: these are non-stock bulbs: PIAA 6000K
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Old 03-12-02, 05:26 PM
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I'm not here to roast anyone, just offering some info.

Here is a quick comparison of the beam patterns; again, may be the camera (I tried to compare like distances and elevations), but I really don't think so. The primary variable has igot to be the missing HID optics.

A's 8k kit & Shinchan's (hope you don't mind dude!) 6k Philips Ultinon Replacement D2R bulbs for his existing OEM HIDs

HTH
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Old 03-12-02, 05:34 PM
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Shinchan's camera angle isn't directly in the light beams path, thus no lens flaring. Here's the cut-off of a stock E46 M3...
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Old 03-12-02, 05:36 PM
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Here's one from a stock E53 X5. I think you guys get the point by now. If not, I got plenty more.
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Old 03-12-02, 05:45 PM
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Okay, Nick needs a little help on clarifying here What exactly is needed to get the clear beam pattern. I can see the clear lines on the pictures you guys posted (the ones shining on the walls) but what is it that gives you this pattern? It can't be the headlight housing b/c the civic is using the OEM honda housings. Does the bulb make the difference? D2R vs. D2S? IMO, I would go with the D2R with a reflector lens housing.

Can somone dumb it down further for me

-Nick
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Oh, yeah, and here are some pics I took last night. I sized them down, maybe a little too much. I don't really know what they are supposed to help you see, but I took them so look at 'em!

-Nick
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Old 03-12-02, 05:53 PM
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LS from driver's seat w/ OEM HID's.
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Old 03-12-02, 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by LexRX
Okay, Nick needs a little help on clarifying here What exactly is needed to get the clear beam pattern. I can see the clear lines on the pictures you guys posted (the ones shining on the walls) but what is it that gives you this pattern? It can't be the headlight housing b/c the civic is using the OEM honda housings. Does the bulb make the difference? D2R vs. D2S? IMO, I would go with the D2R with a reflector lens housing.

Can somone dumb it down further for me

-Nick

It's all in the optics. OEM spec'ed HID optics will give you the optimal source focal points, lens curvature, reflector depth and curvature, reflector cap. The optics distribute the increased lumen output of the arc capsule bulb farther ahead on the road, wider to both sides, and directly in front of the subject vehicle.

Halogen optics are very different. Since the halogens don't produce a third of what HID does in terms of light intensity, any light the halogen bulb produces must be concentrated where the lgiht is neede most: straight ahead of your car. Now imagine putting an HID light bulb in that halogen chamber. You will produce 3 times as much light in the same area where it is not needed. Result is glare, blinding, unmanaged light.


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