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need offset and wheel color help
02-10-09, 07:00 PM
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mate the +23 up front would be flusher than my +27 by the 4mm, but i went a bit softer just cause its a daily driver and i wanted to run less camber and be just about flush (though i am sort of running too much camber up front at -2, might get it reduced soon by a bit)
so yes up front anywhere from low 20s to mid/high 20s will work. it may scrub up driveways etc though under compression. obviously the lower 20s will be more flush as the picture above, though my +27 was quite flush when first mounted before i had camber increased to -2.
as for rear, 10.5 +29 is 1mm more offset than 10 +24 haha so its basically identical to mine anyway. the car you posted is just a bit lower than mine (probably cause its in Drive and moving).
if its your daily and you dont want to go too crazy then somewhere around mid 20s front and low 20s rear will be fine.
so yes up front anywhere from low 20s to mid/high 20s will work. it may scrub up driveways etc though under compression. obviously the lower 20s will be more flush as the picture above, though my +27 was quite flush when first mounted before i had camber increased to -2.
as for rear, 10.5 +29 is 1mm more offset than 10 +24 haha so its basically identical to mine anyway. the car you posted is just a bit lower than mine (probably cause its in Drive and moving).
if its your daily and you dont want to go too crazy then somewhere around mid 20s front and low 20s rear will be fine.
this is my daily and im trying to keep all camber within factory spec..
so do you think a 20x10.5 et +29 with a 275/30 tire will clear the rear?
and a 20x9 et +26 on 245/30 will clear and not poke out running -1degree?
02-10-09, 07:18 PM
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I do not think you will clear the rear. I run a 20x10 +30 with 255/35 and wasnt even close to clearing in the rear. Even after i shaved the rear fenders and pulled them it STILL has some rubing. I think if I camber in a bit I wont have any rubbing but if you dont want to deal with the hassle id suggest going with a different offset.
02-10-09, 07:39 PM
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I do not think you will clear the rear. I run a 20x10 +30 with 255/35 and wasnt even close to clearing in the rear. Even after i shaved the rear fenders and pulled them it STILL has some rubing. I think if I camber in a bit I wont have any rubbing but if you dont want to deal with the hassle id suggest going with a different offset.
02-10-09, 07:55 PM
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I understand your struggle. Its one I went through and chose a more aggressive offset and had to do all these fender mods. Im not exactly sure what offset you should go with. What I do know is what I went through. Basically the rim stuck out from the fender by a good amount. And its not always easy to find someone who knows how or is willing to pull a lexus rear fender because its double layered. Hope this helps.
02-10-09, 08:50 PM
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I understand your struggle. Its one I went through and chose a more aggressive offset and had to do all these fender mods. Im not exactly sure what offset you should go with. What I do know is what I went through. Basically the rim stuck out from the fender by a good amount. And its not always easy to find someone who knows how or is willing to pull a lexus rear fender because its double layered. Hope this helps.
02-10-09, 09:21 PM
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okay well mine you saw and it is 19x10 +24 with 235/35/19 Nexen N3000 (good stretching tyre, runs narrow) and -2 camber. My gaurds are rolled and are about 1/2 as large as the stock lip. If you have shaved down your rear guards to half the lip width or less, you should be fine with 10.5 +29.
when you say 'camber in factory spec' i really dont know what you mean. what is the factory camber setting? imo -2 isnt that bad, and at my ride height it is the least amount of camber they can get from stock arms. If you got the exact RCA you could acheive less camber and have possibly "factory spec" camber of -1 or so.
with my set up, i have about 5mm from the edge of the tyre to the rolled guard edge. the rim edge sticks a bit out past my tyre, but under compression it tucks up under the guard without problems. i never get any scrubbing. up front i get some scrubbing at top dead centre of the guard under hard compression and full lock (up driveways). my car is tucking tyre tread up front, and half the sidewall of the tyre up back.
As for your tyre choice, check out the rolling diameter calculator on 1010tires. you can compare overall rolling diameters. Compared to my setup, your 20s with a 275/30 would be about 3/4" larger. this shouldnt make much difference, just means if you ride at my height you will tuck more.
Also, bear in my mind if you are unhappy with the poke you could run more camber to tuck them in, but may eat more tyres.
when you say 'camber in factory spec' i really dont know what you mean. what is the factory camber setting? imo -2 isnt that bad, and at my ride height it is the least amount of camber they can get from stock arms. If you got the exact RCA you could acheive less camber and have possibly "factory spec" camber of -1 or so.
with my set up, i have about 5mm from the edge of the tyre to the rolled guard edge. the rim edge sticks a bit out past my tyre, but under compression it tucks up under the guard without problems. i never get any scrubbing. up front i get some scrubbing at top dead centre of the guard under hard compression and full lock (up driveways). my car is tucking tyre tread up front, and half the sidewall of the tyre up back.
As for your tyre choice, check out the rolling diameter calculator on 1010tires. you can compare overall rolling diameters. Compared to my setup, your 20s with a 275/30 would be about 3/4" larger. this shouldnt make much difference, just means if you ride at my height you will tuck more.
Also, bear in my mind if you are unhappy with the poke you could run more camber to tuck them in, but may eat more tyres.
02-10-09, 09:24 PM
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and i'd need to check my sheet to see what exactly i was running before having it re-aligned to -2, but i think with around -1 to -1.5 (which is a nice bitey amount of camber up front) you should be fine with 9 +26.
if you've already shaved your guards a bit, you can always shave off a bit more pretty easily it you need that little extra clearance.
IMHO i would rather run a few mm more offset and have a mild aggressive look and a bit of camber, than get soft offsets and have to run dodgey slip on spacers to gain another 5-8mm of offset.
if you've already shaved your guards a bit, you can always shave off a bit more pretty easily it you need that little extra clearance.
IMHO i would rather run a few mm more offset and have a mild aggressive look and a bit of camber, than get soft offsets and have to run dodgey slip on spacers to gain another 5-8mm of offset.
02-10-09, 11:02 PM
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and i'd need to check my sheet to see what exactly i was running before having it re-aligned to -2, but i think with around -1 to -1.5 (which is a nice bitey amount of camber up front) you should be fine with 9 +26.
if you've already shaved your guards a bit, you can always shave off a bit more pretty easily it you need that little extra clearance.
IMHO i would rather run a few mm more offset and have a mild aggressive look and a bit of camber, than get soft offsets and have to run dodgey slip on spacers to gain another 5-8mm of offset.
if you've already shaved your guards a bit, you can always shave off a bit more pretty easily it you need that little extra clearance.
IMHO i would rather run a few mm more offset and have a mild aggressive look and a bit of camber, than get soft offsets and have to run dodgey slip on spacers to gain another 5-8mm of offset.
02-11-09, 07:42 AM
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[ANT] thank you so much for all the help.. i just found my alignment specs.. my front camber is -.40 degrees and the rear is -1.5 degrees, i set toe on both at just about zero.. so with my camber not being to off
i think im going to go with 20x9 +26 and a 245/35/20 for the front and a 20x10.5 +30 with a 275/30/20 rear.. going with the camber im at now it should be about flush but not rub, hopefully
i think im going to go with 20x9 +26 and a 245/35/20 for the front and a 20x10.5 +30 with a 275/30/20 rear.. going with the camber im at now it should be about flush but not rub, hopefully
02-11-09, 05:06 PM
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no problems mate, glad to give some input.
okay so looking at that i have a 9" with 235/35 for a mild stretch up front. if you go 245/35 it will be pretty much square (no stretch) along with +26, i think you will need to increase your front camber a bit to clear and not scrub. but they wont poke out. Also, if you havent modded your front guards you will need to either roll or shave them also.
rears you should be fine with -1.5 since you said they're shaved right down. like i say im at -2 but i have a fair bit of lip left under there and still have room.
okay so looking at that i have a 9" with 235/35 for a mild stretch up front. if you go 245/35 it will be pretty much square (no stretch) along with +26, i think you will need to increase your front camber a bit to clear and not scrub. but they wont poke out. Also, if you havent modded your front guards you will need to either roll or shave them also.
rears you should be fine with -1.5 since you said they're shaved right down. like i say im at -2 but i have a fair bit of lip left under there and still have room.
02-11-09, 08:07 PM
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no problems mate, glad to give some input.
okay so looking at that i have a 9" with 235/35 for a mild stretch up front. if you go 245/35 it will be pretty much square (no stretch) along with +26, i think you will need to increase your front camber a bit to clear and not scrub. but they wont poke out. Also, if you havent modded your front guards you will need to either roll or shave them also.
rears you should be fine with -1.5 since you said they're shaved right down. like i say im at -2 but i have a fair bit of lip left under there and still have room.
okay so looking at that i have a 9" with 235/35 for a mild stretch up front. if you go 245/35 it will be pretty much square (no stretch) along with +26, i think you will need to increase your front camber a bit to clear and not scrub. but they wont poke out. Also, if you havent modded your front guards you will need to either roll or shave them also.
rears you should be fine with -1.5 since you said they're shaved right down. like i say im at -2 but i have a fair bit of lip left under there and still have room.
02-12-09, 02:29 AM
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235/35 should be okay if you've rolled or shaved your fronts. might scrub a bit though. you'll likely have to go lower when you get 20s anyway and -.4 is bugger all camber so you you'll probably end up with -1 or so anyway and it wont be an issue.
265/30 should be right up back on the shaved guards at -1.5 i reckon
265/30 should be right up back on the shaved guards at -1.5 i reckon
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