Worth getting Daizen bushings?
09-06-10, 11:57 AM
#1
Worth getting Daizen bushings?
My bushings in the front are shot. And I was wondering if getting Daizen bushings was worth the wait? Im running 19s with stretched tires and I heard that with the daizen bushings you feel the road more.. Should i just get oem bushings?
09-08-10, 10:07 AM
#4
Depends. The daizens are polyurethene brushings and when you compare them side by side with the OEM brushings, they are noticeably fatter, thicker, and denser than OEM.
The control arm brushings, coupled with the daizen sways and tein CS V2 makes a huge difference in cornering capabilities. Huge. You might slide around in your seat, but the car will hold nicely when you whip around corners. Now I'm not sure if you just switched out the daizen control arm brushings with completely OEM suspension, but the control arm brushings coupled with the daizen sways, tein coils, and a nice staggered tire setup are night and day when compared to OEM (obviously). As to ride condition/comfort, I didn't notice any difference. You might feel the road a bit more since the brushings are harder and don't compress as much, but that is the price you pay if you want more 'sport' in your suspension.
As for the daizen steering rack brushing, I think this is a must. The OEM steering rack brushing is very soft and mushy compared to the daizen counterpart. You might get more road feel/vibration in the steering wheel, but I personally like that. The OEM steering wheel lags and doesn't really connect the driver immediately to changing road conditions, especially when doing tight cornering. The steering rack brushing tightens up the steering, making it more responsive, and gives you more 'road feel' which is a necessity when you modify your suspension for more sport.
Again, I have no idea how the daizen brushing set will act or feel with completely OEM suspension, but if you've done other mods to your suspension to make it more sporty, these brushings are a must in my opinion.
The control arm brushings, coupled with the daizen sways and tein CS V2 makes a huge difference in cornering capabilities. Huge. You might slide around in your seat, but the car will hold nicely when you whip around corners. Now I'm not sure if you just switched out the daizen control arm brushings with completely OEM suspension, but the control arm brushings coupled with the daizen sways, tein coils, and a nice staggered tire setup are night and day when compared to OEM (obviously). As to ride condition/comfort, I didn't notice any difference. You might feel the road a bit more since the brushings are harder and don't compress as much, but that is the price you pay if you want more 'sport' in your suspension.
As for the daizen steering rack brushing, I think this is a must. The OEM steering rack brushing is very soft and mushy compared to the daizen counterpart. You might get more road feel/vibration in the steering wheel, but I personally like that. The OEM steering wheel lags and doesn't really connect the driver immediately to changing road conditions, especially when doing tight cornering. The steering rack brushing tightens up the steering, making it more responsive, and gives you more 'road feel' which is a necessity when you modify your suspension for more sport.
Again, I have no idea how the daizen brushing set will act or feel with completely OEM suspension, but if you've done other mods to your suspension to make it more sporty, these brushings are a must in my opinion.
09-08-10, 10:20 AM
#7
I could think of a few reasons why you wouldn't want to get them 
As for Daizen with stock suspension, I ran just the caster bushings alone for a while and sold it off right away. It made no difference in handling, but you do feel the road though. I guess you can say the car rides harsher/rougher. If your bushings are shot, then you'll immediately notice a difference. My OEM bushings only had 50k miles when I made the swap so they were still good.
Whenever I drove over lane dividers, the bumps were noticeably harsher, but not to the point where your teeth rattles. If you're wanting to inject some sportiness into your car and you're okay with feeling the roads more, then go for the daizen.
As for Daizen with stock suspension, I ran just the caster bushings alone for a while and sold it off right away. It made no difference in handling, but you do feel the road though. I guess you can say the car rides harsher/rougher. If your bushings are shot, then you'll immediately notice a difference. My OEM bushings only had 50k miles when I made the swap so they were still good.
Whenever I drove over lane dividers, the bumps were noticeably harsher, but not to the point where your teeth rattles. If you're wanting to inject some sportiness into your car and you're okay with feeling the roads more, then go for the daizen.
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09-08-10, 04:58 PM
#10
It's not about the ride quality to be honest. The problem with the Daizen is that it's great for stock cars that don't see anything but a smooth road. The lower you are, the worse it is for the bushing because it's designed with only one degree of freedom. Ever looked at the arm while the car is slammed to the ground? The lip gets pierced/torn and over the long run, it can deteriorate the bushing itself. That is why I like FIG's design, or even the heim joint that mex_lex has because it allows the arm to move in the direction it needs to.
My car rides much better now with OEM bushings and stiffer spring rates, than it did with OEM suspension and the Daizen bushings.
My car rides much better now with OEM bushings and stiffer spring rates, than it did with OEM suspension and the Daizen bushings.
09-08-10, 06:42 PM
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would getting these new bushings fix my car issue, my car steering wheel has a shake at any speeds and it feels more difficult to turn the steering wheel as if i have no power steering or something. my steering wheel and the front wheels would jerk to one way and the other going over little dips/bumps and potholes on the streets
09-08-10, 09:40 PM
#15
save yourself the headache from purchasing from TM and the headache of someone that can actually properly install them
buy oem
for the steering rack bushings and the control arm bushings sure but the lower control arm ones.. just buy the entire arm oem. $234 shipped from lexusparts
buy oem
for the steering rack bushings and the control arm bushings sure but the lower control arm ones.. just buy the entire arm oem. $234 shipped from lexusparts