TOTAL suspension upgrade
09-12-10, 09:29 AM
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TOTAL suspension upgrade
ok guys in the next 12 mon i want to do a TOTAL suspension upgrade w/ a nice lowered GS to fit 19's...
so far i want to go w/ tien flex coil overs but i am totally lost on the control arms that are the best. Who has a GREAT control arm/brushing upgrade, websites please. The only ones i have seen so far are the ones on the L-tuned site but nothing to compare them to, other than OEM. and if i'm missing any other parts please advise. So far i have what i want for (Lower front and rear braces, links, plates, strut bars)all Toms, and rear member braces. Let me know if i am on the right track and/or if i am missing things. Thanks
so far i want to go w/ tien flex coil overs but i am totally lost on the control arms that are the best. Who has a GREAT control arm/brushing upgrade, websites please. The only ones i have seen so far are the ones on the L-tuned site but nothing to compare them to, other than OEM. and if i'm missing any other parts please advise. So far i have what i want for (Lower front and rear braces, links, plates, strut bars)all Toms, and rear member braces. Let me know if i am on the right track and/or if i am missing things. Thanks
09-13-10, 10:48 AM
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Daizen steering rack bushing kit. For a total suspension upgrade you should do what i am working on doing to my car.
Coilovers
Daizen control arm bushings
Daizen steering rack bushings
TRD blue sway bars
New balljoints and Tie rods
Front and rear STB
Front lower brace
This should get your car handling like a porsche. So far i only have coilovers and STB's but my car already handles MUCH better. Goodluck!!!
Coilovers
Daizen control arm bushings
Daizen steering rack bushings
TRD blue sway bars
New balljoints and Tie rods
Front and rear STB
Front lower brace
This should get your car handling like a porsche. So far i only have coilovers and STB's but my car already handles MUCH better. Goodluck!!!
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09-13-10, 06:01 PM
#8
NICE, thanks bro!!! Whats a good aftermarket ball joint & tie rod, who makes them? or is it just OEM???
Daizen steering rack bushing kit. For a total suspension upgrade you should do what i am working on doing to my car.
Coilovers
Daizen control arm bushings
Daizen steering rack bushings
TRD blue sway bars
New balljoints and Tie rods
Front and rear STB
Front lower brace
This should get your car handling like a porsche. So far i only have coilovers and STB's but my car already handles MUCH better. Goodluck!!!
Coilovers
Daizen control arm bushings
Daizen steering rack bushings
TRD blue sway bars
New balljoints and Tie rods
Front and rear STB
Front lower brace
This should get your car handling like a porsche. So far i only have coilovers and STB's but my car already handles MUCH better. Goodluck!!!
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09-14-10, 08:24 AM
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Daizen steering rack bushing kit. For a total suspension upgrade you should do what i am working on doing to my car.
Coilovers
Daizen control arm bushings
Daizen steering rack bushings
TRD blue sway bars
New balljoints and Tie rods
Front and rear STB
Front lower brace
This should get your car handling like a porsche. So far i only have coilovers and STB's but my car already handles MUCH better. Goodluck!!!
Coilovers
Daizen control arm bushings
Daizen steering rack bushings
TRD blue sway bars
New balljoints and Tie rods
Front and rear STB
Front lower brace
This should get your car handling like a porsche. So far i only have coilovers and STB's but my car already handles MUCH better. Goodluck!!!
I would suggest you try the urethene bushings with the factory sway bars before you do the TRD Blue sways. The upgrade of the bushings gives the car great balance along with the other stuff listed. The TRD's are stiff enough to bend end links easily in daily driving situations, they are good at what the do. I have both and the stock sways with the bushings provide a better balance in daily driving. If you want the TRD blue's you can buy mine.
09-14-10, 09:48 AM
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I would suggest you try the urethene bushings with the factory sway bars before you do the TRD Blue sways. The upgrade of the bushings gives the car great balance along with the other stuff listed. The TRD's are stiff enough to bend end links easily in daily driving situations, they are good at what the do. I have both and the stock sways with the bushings provide a better balance in daily driving. If you want the TRD blue's you can buy mine.
09-14-10, 04:40 PM
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so the TRD's will bend the stock end links? where can i get upgraded links that wont do that? or what company brand makes them. I'm pretty much doing it all, Ie. nothing stock on the suspension if i can do it.
so far this is what i will be going with:
Tien Flex coils
Tien Front/rear stb (i heard barely any other stb will fit b/c of the tops of the tiens)
FOOTWORKS ~ Adjuster Rear Lower Arms
FOOTWORKS ~ Front Upper Arms
FOOTWORKS ~ Rear Camber Adjuster Upper Arms
FOOTWORKS ~ Roll Center Adjuster Pillow Lower Arms(Kit)
FOOTWORKS ~ Traction Adjuster Rods
FOOTWORKS ~ Rear Knuckle Pillow Bushings
FOOTWORKS ~ Rear Pillow Bushings
Tom's GS lower Front Brace
Tom's GS Rear Lower Brace
Tom's GS Rear Lower Suspension 6-link
Tom's GS Rear Suspension Plates
(as you stated)
TRD GS Sway Bar
Daizen control arm bushings
Daizen steering rack bushings
what else would i need???
PS: the shoes are going to be F-sport 19's x8 on front and x9 rear
so far this is what i will be going with:
Tien Flex coils
Tien Front/rear stb (i heard barely any other stb will fit b/c of the tops of the tiens)
FOOTWORKS ~ Adjuster Rear Lower Arms
FOOTWORKS ~ Front Upper Arms
FOOTWORKS ~ Rear Camber Adjuster Upper Arms
FOOTWORKS ~ Roll Center Adjuster Pillow Lower Arms(Kit)
FOOTWORKS ~ Traction Adjuster Rods
FOOTWORKS ~ Rear Knuckle Pillow Bushings
FOOTWORKS ~ Rear Pillow Bushings
Tom's GS lower Front Brace
Tom's GS Rear Lower Brace
Tom's GS Rear Lower Suspension 6-link
Tom's GS Rear Suspension Plates
(as you stated)
TRD GS Sway Bar
Daizen control arm bushings
Daizen steering rack bushings
what else would i need???
PS: the shoes are going to be F-sport 19's x8 on front and x9 rear
I would suggest you try the urethene bushings with the factory sway bars before you do the TRD Blue sways. The upgrade of the bushings gives the car great balance along with the other stuff listed. The TRD's are stiff enough to bend end links easily in daily driving situations, they are good at what the do. I have both and the stock sways with the bushings provide a better balance in daily driving. If you want the TRD blue's you can buy mine.
09-14-10, 04:48 PM
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The reason for bending endlinks is that most people are running either OEM or some soft springs. When you do this, the sway bars are handling more load than the stock sways can handle. If you upgrade to stiffer springs, you'll lessen the likelihood of bending the endlinks. Stiffening the endlinks can also have its consequence if you still retain OEM/soft springs.
09-14-10, 06:24 PM
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The reason for bending endlinks is that most people are running either OEM or some soft springs. When you do this, the sway bars are handling more load than the stock sways can handle. If you upgrade to stiffer springs, you'll lessen the likelihood of bending the endlinks. Stiffening the endlinks can also have its consequence if you still retain OEM/soft springs.
Good explaination!
But yea what he said, this was my suggestion that you try the bushings first. It is all in compatible stuff for your driving purpose. The sway bar choices are down to three, stock. stock w/urethene-diazen bushings, TRD blues. The TRD's are great, but the inscrease in stiffness from stock is 100+ % which is alot for street driven cars. The bushings, alone with reasonable spring/shock choice are pretty effective and only costs $30.