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Regretting Daizen Install

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Old 01-10-11, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TLcoats
Man, I'm still on the fence of whether to install the rest of my bushings now. I installed the caster arm bushings and really like the added improvements and tightness associated with it. But i'm wondering whether doing the UCA and LCA #1 would make my car to stiff and unforgiving. I had no idea that many people are unsatisfied with them. In previous post i only heard good things?
If you install it and end up not liking it, then I'm sure there are people out there who would love to trade with you . Everyone's comfort level is different. I initially didn't mind the bushings, but then I started driving people who were more used to the Lexus feel and they could tell it was harsher. Eventually I didn't like it, but then again, I don't like my car jarring either. OEM bushings may not last as long, but they're holding up fine for me right now.
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Ill trade you my stock arms
Old 01-10-11, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GS4_CS
Ill trade you my stock arms
How many miles do you have on your arms?

I wouldn't want to trade for OEM arms that have high miles on them and are already worn.
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Also, does anyone know which arms bushings in particular cause the harsh ride? Is it the caster bushings, lower control arm, or upper control arm? Meaning, could i just buy OEM lower control arms and keep the Daizen bushings for the caster arms and upper control arm and get some ride comfort back?
Old 01-10-11, 08:39 AM
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Dang that sucks to hear you guys are not happy after investing the $$$$..

thanks for the heads up though, i will definetly avoid these, I've had my share of slammed and lowered cars with super stiff noisy harsh rides, and i definetly don't want the GS riding like that, i'm all about stock ride comfor on the GS..


All 3 of my SC's had Coilovers, as well as any other lowered car i've had, my GS came on a Spring/Strut combo, and i'd love to change them out for some full coilovers, but these spring/struts ride so stock and sit low enough for now i just can't jusify losing the ride quality going to coils.
Old 01-10-11, 05:45 PM
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i'll vouch....mine is firm and squeaky too after the daizens...but way more responsive
Old 01-10-11, 07:54 PM
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Ok, so does Lexus not sell replacement bushings? I would have to buy new parts if I was to replace? I'm on air and I drive low, and I wouldn't want to invest in new arms if I will blow the bushings out quick. I'd would suck up the "harshness" of the daizens,
Old 01-11-11, 05:24 AM
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I think its all a matter of personal preference. To some it may be harsh and to some it might be normal. I think almost anything we do to our cars will affect them in a way different from what lexus engineers came up with. My coilovers with pillowball mounts are hard and noisy, but its a trade off I'm willing to live with for performance and ability to ride low. ill still upgrade to daizens
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I love my Daizens! No complaints at all.
Old 01-11-11, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EN_VY
Ok, so does Lexus not sell replacement bushings?
Not to my knowledge. I know at least with the SC's the bushings were never really meant to be replaced - hence why they are such a PITA. If you want oem you're stuck with either lexus or supra control arms.
Old 01-12-11, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
If you install it and end up not liking it, then I'm sure there are people out there who would love to trade with you . Everyone's comfort level is different. I initially didn't mind the bushings, but then I started driving people who were more used to the Lexus feel and they could tell it was harsher. Eventually I didn't like it, but then again, I don't like my car jarring either. OEM bushings may not last as long, but they're holding up fine for me right now.
You want to trade? Only 99k miles on the car.
Old 01-12-11, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by krispl
I love my Daizens! No complaints at all.
of coarse, you live in CA. Roads aren't so good for us on the other side.
Old 01-12-11, 07:17 AM
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i love my daizens and have had my share of problems with them. but after regreasing them i got rid of the squeaks. as for driving harshness i guess comeing from a VW or f350 diesel they are smooth as glass.

i have 30k on mine
Old 01-12-11, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TLcoats
You want to trade? Only 99k miles on the car.

I got rid of the Daizens almost a year ago. lol
Old 01-12-11, 10:08 AM
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So maybe I should just buy the caster bushings and call it a day hmnn


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