Are GS300's underrated, feels more powerful than 227 HP
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I dont think this thread was originated to debate the 300 vs 400. Of course we all know the V8 is alot quicker. His point was, being a inline 6, the GS300 is actually pretty quick and decent.
I dont know why everyone is throwing around Infinitys and Audi. Why are we comparing and getting off-topic of the OP thread?
If your wife's 300HP is fast, then maybe you should drive the S4 and understand fast. Correct? Not the point of this thread.
I dont know why everyone is throwing around Infinitys and Audi. Why are we comparing and getting off-topic of the OP thread?
If your wife's 300HP is fast, then maybe you should drive the S4 and understand fast. Correct? Not the point of this thread.
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He wanted to know if it was considered underrated. When you make the consideration of being underrated in terms of HP, then you would compare it to the competition to determine if it is in fact underrated.
When I hear the term underrated. I take it as a comparison to others similar or within a certain class. Hence, we bring up other cars from other mftr's to discuss if the GS3 is considered underrated when matched up against a G35 or an A4 etc
When I hear the term underrated. I take it as a comparison to others similar or within a certain class. Hence, we bring up other cars from other mftr's to discuss if the GS3 is considered underrated when matched up against a G35 or an A4 etc
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i just picked up a gs300, and my previous car: an '03 acura tl type s, was way much quicker. obviously i'm comparing 225 hp to 260 hp.
but i feel the gs300 is slower than my mom's minivan.. which is a '99 toyota sienna (which only has 210hp). my mom's minivan gets on it quick.. acceleration is quick.. but for the gs.. it takes forever to get up to speed.. but maybe i just need to do maintenance..
i like the rear wheel drive platform compared to the front wheel though.. cause you can actually feel the jerk/slight pull whenever you accelerate from 65mph+ on the highway. in a front wheel drive car, you can never feel such a pull.
but i feel the gs300 is slower than my mom's minivan.. which is a '99 toyota sienna (which only has 210hp). my mom's minivan gets on it quick.. acceleration is quick.. but for the gs.. it takes forever to get up to speed.. but maybe i just need to do maintenance..
i like the rear wheel drive platform compared to the front wheel though.. cause you can actually feel the jerk/slight pull whenever you accelerate from 65mph+ on the highway. in a front wheel drive car, you can never feel such a pull.
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree, my GS is slow as hell, my X5 will rape it. I can't imagine what my car will put down to the wheel. If a GS3 isn't boosted, its most likely slow as dirt.
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From a dig the gs aint that great. As said multiple times, the gearing is great. I've found that top end is pretty sweet when you're at the right speed. Judging by your comment "when I need to get around someone" supports that point. When you're at that mark of needing to get ahead of someone, you're probably right at the perfect speed for that optimal get up. Sure the 300 aint the quickest, but to call it a 'turd' I surly would say that about my car. I'll never understand why people own cars they dont like.
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I have to say I agree with OP before I did my TT swap on my GS300 when I first got my GS it was pretty quick for a stock 2JZGE it was quick and I used to own a MKIII supra turbo.
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I agree with you in terms of the comparison to a GS400 or a Q. That isn't even fair. But in terms of comparing it to a Maxima, A4, G35 sedan or even a TL, we can answer his question by saying, "No, it is not underrated when compared to its competition". Its a model that just so happens to be slower than its competition.
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I agree with you in terms of the comparison to a GS400 or a Q. That isn't even fair. But in terms of comparing it to a Maxima, A4, G35 sedan or even a TL, we can answer his question by saying, "No, it is not underrated when compared to its competition". Its a model that just so happens to be slower than its competition.
So to me the 98-05 GS300 are not overrated.
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The GS3 is relatively slow off the line due to the GS's weight, the relatively low stall of the stock converter and other things. Throw in a 2800 rpm stall converter and it will "feel" like the Acuras and other "quick off the line" cars. Midrange, with the stock gearing is very good. The torque curve of the VVT motor from 3000 - 6000 rpm is really flat which gives the good mid-range performance. That is something that a lot of "high peak hp" cars do not have. My friend has an 05 Maxima SE. The car is rated at 265 hp. He jumps me off the line but I close the gap in second and walk him in third. The Maxima is about 200lbs lighter and while the peak HP and torque are higher the GS's torque peak is 600rpm sooner and much flatter than the Maxima's. Granted, I have done a few things to my car but not 40hp worth.
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The GS3 is relatively slow off the line due to the GS's weight, the relatively low stall of the stock converter and other things. Throw in a 2800 rpm stall converter and it will "feel" like the Acuras and other "quick off the line" cars. Midrange, with the stock gearing is very good. The torque curve of the VVT motor from 3000 - 6000 rpm is really flat which gives the good mid-range performance. That is something that a lot of "high peak hp" cars do not have. My friend has an 05 Maxima SE. The car is rated at 265 hp. He jumps me off the line but I close the gap in second and walk him in third. The Maxima is about 200lbs lighter and while the peak HP and torque are higher the GS's torque peak is 600rpm sooner and much flatter than the Maxima's. Granted, I have done a few things to my car but not 40hp worth.
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The gs3 is a slug off the line. But, from a roll, I'll admit I'm surprised how much pick-up it has. I know mine is modded, and that makes a difference, but it isn't that much more power. The should have made the gs3 come with a TT like the aristo...