Air runner rubbing question
02-06-12, 04:55 PM
#1
Air runner rubbing question
Whats good all, I just recently picked up a used AR kit, and wanted to share my findings. I post this to find out if others are running RCA's with their kit and if so are they experiencing some minor rubbing. I found another person on VIPstylecars which is experiencing this as well but I'm waiting to hear back from him to see he is running front RCA's (also which brand).
I bought this kit from my boy Tom which informed me prior so I have no beef with him, we're good. I'm just trying to figure out my option if I should run the front Exact RCA's or not. Both left side and right have the slight rub mark. Air runner stated to shave down the back side of the knuckle arm, but I'm not sure if I want to do this.
Pro: The RCA drops the car an inch which will allow you to ride with more air in the bag at a lower height which will improve the ride quality, and also run your LS400 brakes.
Cons: (IF this is causing the issue) eventually rupturing the bag.
I haven't installed the kit yet but want to look into my options. Maybe I'm wrong about the RCA, maybe it's a normal thing with
AR which stated in writing to shave the back of the knuckle arm.
My last option which I'm leaning towards is these which could be a fix for all the UAS rubbing issues. I'm waiting on figs, but I'm getting antsy.
The more info the better fella, please specify if you are running front RCA's or not. i wasn't event gonna post this
but when i found another person talking about this i had no choice but to open up the convo. For all of those out there
with Air runner, did not shave the knuckle, and running RCA's, check your front bags.
I bought this kit from my boy Tom which informed me prior so I have no beef with him, we're good. I'm just trying to figure out my option if I should run the front Exact RCA's or not. Both left side and right have the slight rub mark. Air runner stated to shave down the back side of the knuckle arm, but I'm not sure if I want to do this.
Pro: The RCA drops the car an inch which will allow you to ride with more air in the bag at a lower height which will improve the ride quality, and also run your LS400 brakes.
Cons: (IF this is causing the issue) eventually rupturing the bag.
I haven't installed the kit yet but want to look into my options. Maybe I'm wrong about the RCA, maybe it's a normal thing with
AR which stated in writing to shave the back of the knuckle arm.
My last option which I'm leaning towards is these which could be a fix for all the UAS rubbing issues. I'm waiting on figs, but I'm getting antsy.
The more info the better fella, please specify if you are running front RCA's or not. i wasn't event gonna post this
but when i found another person talking about this i had no choice but to open up the convo. For all of those out there
with Air runner, did not shave the knuckle, and running RCA's, check your front bags.
Last edited by nar8ta; 02-06-12 at 06:53 PM.
02-06-12, 06:48 PM
#4
its when inflated? Again this could be the rca's putting the knuckle arm in a different spot.
Twin get at me man....
Last edited by nar8ta; 02-06-12 at 06:52 PM.
02-06-12, 07:05 PM
#5
I only have experience with my UAS KIT. Prior to installing my "billet adapters" , while driving low the bags would be fatter of course since they are nearly deflated. Much like a flattened tire. I did not have my Figs RCA kit installed yet. So, I can't say if the angle or position of the arms were affecting it.
I plan to install my AR kit with Figs 22mm front RCA kits soon.
You are asking alot of good questions, hopefully someone on AR and front RCA kits can chime in.
02-06-12, 10:11 PM
#7
Yo yo... my twin broskie...haha
I only have experience with my UAS KIT. Prior to installing my "billet adapters" , while driving low the bags would be fatter of course since they are nearly deflated. Much like a flattened tire. I did not have my Figs RCA kit installed yet. So, I can't say if the angle or position of the arms were affecting it.
I plan to install my AR kit with Figs 22mm front RCA kits soon.
You are asking alot of good questions, hopefully someone on AR and front RCA kits can chime in.
I only have experience with my UAS KIT. Prior to installing my "billet adapters" , while driving low the bags would be fatter of course since they are nearly deflated. Much like a flattened tire. I did not have my Figs RCA kit installed yet. So, I can't say if the angle or position of the arms were affecting it.
I plan to install my AR kit with Figs 22mm front RCA kits soon.
You are asking alot of good questions, hopefully someone on AR and front RCA kits can chime in.
Keep me posted on your install, i really want to know what you find. I'm still waiting on V (spyder) to do my install. I'm still debating on running the AR manifold. It's sort of bulky compared to Accuair manifold. I'm also thinking of ditching the Air lift autopilot V1.
Shout out to Tom (GS300ToM), thats a real dude right there (he answered every one of my 70 calls lol) that's definitely the homie for life. His honesty was so real. Tom really did his thing putting this kit together..it definitely isn't the basic AR Decade series. Also Shout out to Shin at AR for all of ya help as well.
No it's define minor but i just don't like it man....I'll be driving around thinking about it and it will annoy me.
Last edited by nar8ta; 02-06-12 at 10:27 PM.
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02-06-12, 11:40 PM
#8
hmm how is that possible with sleeve bags? i know wieh you use UAS bags or double bellow bags they will rub since they are wider.. but with sleeves they are much more narrow..
try this
-install the front bags again
-inflate enough to have it form its proper shape.
-while the car is on jacks, jack up either the front driver or passenger side
-remove wheel
-use a smaller or extra jack and jack the hub up so that the arm goes up
-keep going till it bottoms out on the strut tower and watch for any rubbage.
let us know if its actually rubbing in the spindle.
but notice on the manual that the bags are totally different than the ones you have in your hands
try this
-install the front bags again
-inflate enough to have it form its proper shape.
-while the car is on jacks, jack up either the front driver or passenger side
-remove wheel
-use a smaller or extra jack and jack the hub up so that the arm goes up
-keep going till it bottoms out on the strut tower and watch for any rubbage.
let us know if its actually rubbing in the spindle.
but notice on the manual that the bags are totally different than the ones you have in your hands
02-07-12, 05:03 PM
#9
hmm how is that possible with sleeve bags? i know wieh you use UAS bags or double bellow bags they will rub since they are wider.. but with sleeves they are much more narrow..
try this
-install the front bags again
-inflate enough to have it form its proper shape.
-while the car is on jacks, jack up either the front driver or passenger side
-remove wheel
-use a smaller or extra jack and jack the hub up so that the arm goes up
-keep going till it bottoms out on the strut tower and watch for any rubbage.
let us know if its actually rubbing in the spindle.
but notice on the manual that the bags are totally different than the ones you have in your hands
try this
-install the front bags again
-inflate enough to have it form its proper shape.
-while the car is on jacks, jack up either the front driver or passenger side
-remove wheel
-use a smaller or extra jack and jack the hub up so that the arm goes up
-keep going till it bottoms out on the strut tower and watch for any rubbage.
let us know if its actually rubbing in the spindle.
but notice on the manual that the bags are totally different than the ones you have in your hands
Thanks for the walk through. When i install it I'll definitely do as you said to do.
Yo twin, you try this too........
Last edited by nar8ta; 02-07-12 at 05:07 PM.
02-07-12, 11:31 PM
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I ran AR with SAGE front RCAs....both 30mm and 18mm....no rubbing on the sleeves.
Oh, btw, i have not run SAGE 40mm, nor have I run the EXACT 38mm front RCAs.
Yes, the RCAs drop you, so you need more psi in the air bags to get you up to the desired height again...this translate to a stiffer ride due to the higher psi.
I only recently removed the airbag struts to run a new set of coilovers for daily driving.
Oh, btw, i have not run SAGE 40mm, nor have I run the EXACT 38mm front RCAs.
Yes, the RCAs drop you, so you need more psi in the air bags to get you up to the desired height again...this translate to a stiffer ride due to the higher psi.
I only recently removed the airbag struts to run a new set of coilovers for daily driving.
02-08-12, 04:01 PM
#14
I ran AR with SAGE front RCAs....both 30mm and 18mm....no rubbing on the sleeves.
Oh, btw, i have not run SAGE 40mm, nor have I run the EXACT 38mm front RCAs.
Yes, the RCAs drop you, so you need more psi in the air bags to get you up to the desired height again...this translate to a stiffer ride due to the higher psi.
I only recently removed the airbag struts to run a new set of coilovers for daily driving.
Oh, btw, i have not run SAGE 40mm, nor have I run the EXACT 38mm front RCAs.
Yes, the RCAs drop you, so you need more psi in the air bags to get you up to the desired height again...this translate to a stiffer ride due to the higher psi.
I only recently removed the airbag struts to run a new set of coilovers for daily driving.
Spill the bean homie LOL
So ya sellin the car?, if so another vet leaving.
You have a PM.http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl...nmbSlBw&zoom=1
I also want to ask you some question about your air managment . Have you had any trouble with it? No word on the the Air Rex managment but it looks pretty interesting.
http://airrex-usa.com/products/digit...anagement.html
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FJo_...ayer_embedded#!
http://openroadtuning.com/products/a...oller-manifold
Last edited by nar8ta; 02-08-12 at 08:13 PM.
