Looking to buy a gs400 any helpful tips?
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1) Just because someone makes a thread about changing a light bulb, does not mean one cannot go to a speed shop to swap engines. You're assuming everyone here does their work.....
And you assume everyone here can afford to take their car to swap engines, cause we all know its only a few hundred dollars.
2) Engine stuffs, as in parts.....to replace.....
GS4 parts not affordable as compared to a GS3? Your point in this leads me to Confirming my response for #1
3) I do not have an engine swap nor FI. If I wanted to yes I could right now, I have owned many cars faster than 97% of the cars here. Don't care to get in a pissing contest, but to say the gs300 is a slouch, a turtle or whatever is just stupid. Its a ****ing 2jz engine man.......its the engine that allows the street kings to be a car from the early 90's.......not many current tech cars can keep up with supras......
We are not talking about other cars or what you haved owned stay on topic. Now your bringing Supras into the Mix? once again STAY on TOPIC.
The GS is not a Sports car nor cant be compared to a Supra. You have a 2JZGE not a GTE.. SO your saying the GS3 is not a Slouch?
Also, I am selling it because everything I have is for sale. My last car was an 03 LS430 blk/blk UL package.....just wanted to try something different.
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4) GS3 is a slug?
Yes, Compared to the GS4, Yes.. and to go a little off topic, compared to other current sedans YES, but this is acceptable given the years of the car. Never the less such a car with this weight should have more power than the 2J can provide
You're right, the 3.0 is a slug. And once a turbo is put on it, its just a slug with a snail
Again with your bandwagon statement ALL 2J engines are FI. Slug with a Snail?
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And you assume everyone here can afford to take their car to swap engines, cause we all know its only a few hundred dollars.
2) Engine stuffs, as in parts.....to replace.....
GS4 parts not affordable as compared to a GS3? Your point in this leads me to Confirming my response for #1
3) I do not have an engine swap nor FI. If I wanted to yes I could right now, I have owned many cars faster than 97% of the cars here. Don't care to get in a pissing contest, but to say the gs300 is a slouch, a turtle or whatever is just stupid. Its a ****ing 2jz engine man.......its the engine that allows the street kings to be a car from the early 90's.......not many current tech cars can keep up with supras......
We are not talking about other cars or what you haved owned stay on topic. Now your bringing Supras into the Mix? once again STAY on TOPIC.
The GS is not a Sports car nor cant be compared to a Supra. You have a 2JZGE not a GTE.. SO your saying the GS3 is not a Slouch?
Also, I am selling it because everything I have is for sale. My last car was an 03 LS430 blk/blk UL package.....just wanted to try something different.
Great
4) GS3 is a slug?
Yes, Compared to the GS4, Yes.. and to go a little off topic, compared to other current sedans YES, but this is acceptable given the years of the car. Never the less such a car with this weight should have more power than the 2J can provide
You're right, the 3.0 is a slug. And once a turbo is put on it, its just a slug with a snail
Again with your bandwagon statement ALL 2J engines are FI. Slug with a Snail?
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I dont know how I never noticed that. Thanks a bunch. Quick question, is the gs430 mpg close to the gs300? Because from what I read the gs400 is very close if not identical to gs300 mpg. I do not know about the gs430 though. If it is worse then I will stick with the gs400. Thanks
The difference between the GS400 and the 430 is subtle but noticeable. I would do a research on both preferebly Edmunds.com and check out the comparisons. Research the revisions that were made to the 430. The good thing is that they are all swappable (grill, tails, headlights etc.). In the end, it's your call as you really can't go wrong with either trim model.
Go with your budget man. Like I pointed out, the GS400 is a steal these days for what you are getting with this car. If it is in great shape, go for it. You're a college student, and this is one hell of a daily driver for a kid in college. Keep searching and doing your research, you will find amazing things about this car. Get the 400 and you really won't care about engine mods as the power is amazing. Still competes with cars in production today, although 300 hp is being produced out of V6's these days, we still aren't far behind from the V8's that are currently in production
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The GS430's mpg is not much different from the GS400's and since you already know the mpg on the GS400 that shold pretty much answer your question.
The difference between the GS400 and the 430 is subtle but noticeable. I would do a research on both preferebly Edmunds.com and check out the comparisons. Research the revisions that were made to the 430. The good thing is that they are all swappable (grill, tails, headlights etc.). In the end, it's your call as you really can't go wrong with either trim model.
Go with your budget man. Like I pointed out, the GS400 is a steal these days for what you are getting with this car. If it is in great shape, go for it. You're a college student, and this is one hell of a daily driver for a kid in college. Keep searching and doing your research, you will find amazing things about this car. Get the 400 and you really won't care about engine mods as the power is amazing. Still competes with cars in production today, although 300 hp is being produced out of V6's these days, we still aren't far behind from the V8's that are currently in production
The difference between the GS400 and the 430 is subtle but noticeable. I would do a research on both preferebly Edmunds.com and check out the comparisons. Research the revisions that were made to the 430. The good thing is that they are all swappable (grill, tails, headlights etc.). In the end, it's your call as you really can't go wrong with either trim model.
Go with your budget man. Like I pointed out, the GS400 is a steal these days for what you are getting with this car. If it is in great shape, go for it. You're a college student, and this is one hell of a daily driver for a kid in college. Keep searching and doing your research, you will find amazing things about this car. Get the 400 and you really won't care about engine mods as the power is amazing. Still competes with cars in production today, although 300 hp is being produced out of V6's these days, we still aren't far behind from the V8's that are currently in production
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Thanks for your reply. I just happened to find this and read all 8 pages. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...-analysis.html I never paid attention to so many little details. But I am going to be updating the tails, rims, headlights, etc. Honestly, the way i see it is if gs 400 and gs430 mpg is barely if any lower compared to gs300 then why not just go for the v8? I get the best bang for my buck. The only hard part is finding one. There are a lot less gs400/430 for sale in pristine xondition compared to the gs300. I have used searchtempest.com to search through all of craigslist cities nearby and also use autotrader. I guess I will be looking for the gs430 now as well. Even though the gs400 is cheaper and the performance is barely noticable.
When I purchased my 400 at 111,000 mi, it was virtually untouched. Parts were wearing out and I found myself repalcing quite a bit. However, the upside is that I know that nobody tried to service it and in doing so, messed something up that I would've been forced to live with. So I took the good with the bad. She's in stellar shape and I know for a fact that I can get another 150k possibly more out of this car. Very well built machine. And this is coming from a lifelong Nissan/Infiniti guy lol
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Gs300 are slow as a slug. I drove my friends gs300 and floored it didn't go anywhere. Hell my sc300 felt faster than that. Gs400/430 is the way to go if you don't plan on modifying the engine.
ssxblazer; i'm glad that you have faster cars than 97% of the members on these forums
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I agree with ****-adkt. Pretty sure everyone here who bought a gs300 said I wont worry about the slowness i'll just turbo or swap! Majority don't too pricey and etc.
Gs300 are slow as a slug. I drove my friends gs300 and floored it didn't go anywhere. Hell my sc300 felt faster than that. Gs400/430 is the way to go if you don't plan on modifying the engine.
ssxblazer; i'm glad that you have faster cars than 97% of the members on these forums![Egads!](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/pat.gif)
Gs300 are slow as a slug. I drove my friends gs300 and floored it didn't go anywhere. Hell my sc300 felt faster than that. Gs400/430 is the way to go if you don't plan on modifying the engine.
ssxblazer; i'm glad that you have faster cars than 97% of the members on these forums
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well ttyl
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From what alot of lexus dealer mechanic friends tell me, stay away from the 98-00 models: They have the most problems. Just like any new body style production, give it a few yrs until the fix the kinks out of the model. I had an 02 GS430 and loved it until a girl who was texting on the freeway during traffic rear-ended me and total-lossed my car. So I finally found an 05 GS430 that I currently have and extremely happy w/ it. A few of my cousins who have fixed up 2nd gens (a 98 gs300 and the other one a 00' 400) have been having problems w/ actuators, ball joints, etc. One thing after the next, even after our friends have given them heads up on those models. You might as well go w/ atleast an 01 v8 (that's when they started doing the 430 models) instead of a 400. But that's just my opinion. lol
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From what alot of lexus dealer mechanic friends tell me, stay away from the 98-00 models: They have the most problems. Just like any new body style production, give it a few yrs until the fix the kinks out of the model. I had an 02 GS430 and loved it until a girl who was texting on the freeway during traffic rear-ended me and total-lossed my car. So I finally found an 05 GS430 that I currently have and extremely happy w/ it. A few of my cousins who have fixed up 2nd gens (a 98 gs300 and the other one a 00' 400) have been having problems w/ actuators, ball joints, etc. One thing after the next, even after our friends have given them heads up on those models. You might as well go w/ atleast an 01 v8 (that's when they started doing the 430 models) instead of a 400. But that's just my opinion. lol
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From what alot of lexus dealer mechanic friends tell me, stay away from the 98-00 models: They have the most problems. Just like any new body style production, give it a few yrs until the fix the kinks out of the model. I had an 02 GS430 and loved it until a girl who was texting on the freeway during traffic rear-ended me and total-lossed my car. So I finally found an 05 GS430 that I currently have and extremely happy w/ it. A few of my cousins who have fixed up 2nd gens (a 98 gs300 and the other one a 00' 400) have been having problems w/ actuators, ball joints, etc. One thing after the next, even after our friends have given them heads up on those models. You might as well go w/ atleast an 01 v8 (that's when they started doing the 430 models) instead of a 400. But that's just my opinion. lol
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I dont have a problem with my gs4 besides ball joint, alternator, and starter. I bought the the car with 144k for $6700 3 yrs ago and its still running like a champ. Its cloae to 190k now. If you keep up the maintenance you wont have a problem with the car besides normal wear and tear parts. I thought all 2gs had bad ball joint issues.
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I have a 2000 GS400 (100K miles)
that I'm very happy with. I've replaced the starter, lower ball joints (Twice!) caster arms, upper arms. But no issues at all with engine, trans, HVAC, electrics.
The front suspension seems to be the weak link in these cars, but I'd still buy another, in fact I'd look for a 430.
Now if people would just stop damaging my car in the parking lot at work it would still look like new.
that I'm very happy with. I've replaced the starter, lower ball joints (Twice!) caster arms, upper arms. But no issues at all with engine, trans, HVAC, electrics.
The front suspension seems to be the weak link in these cars, but I'd still buy another, in fact I'd look for a 430.
Now if people would just stop damaging my car in the parking lot at work it would still look like new.
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I have a 2000 GS400 (100K miles)
that I'm very happy with. I've replaced the starter, lower ball joints (Twice!) caster arms, upper arms. But no issues at all with engine, trans, HVAC, electrics.
The front suspension seems to be the weak link in these cars, but I'd still buy another, in fact I'd look for a 430.
Now if people would just stop damaging my car in the parking lot at work it would still look like new.
that I'm very happy with. I've replaced the starter, lower ball joints (Twice!) caster arms, upper arms. But no issues at all with engine, trans, HVAC, electrics.
The front suspension seems to be the weak link in these cars, but I'd still buy another, in fact I'd look for a 430.
Now if people would just stop damaging my car in the parking lot at work it would still look like new.
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Honestly though, if you get the 400 you won't have any more problems than you would with a 430. "Fixed the kinks"??? thats funny. All Lexus really did was revise the look of the car. That is the biggest difference to me. A bigger BMC and a few other unnoticeable things. You are essentially getting the same car man. The biggest "kink" that I feel was ironed out were the ball joints. I never see 01-05 models suffer the same disastrous fate as the 98-2000 models. But this can be easliy rectified...
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Just got a 03 GS430 with 79k miles. Did a oil, transmission, differential, power steering flush using the DIY on the site. Swapped out the spark plugs and got an alignment. Feels like I'm driving on a cloud.