View Poll Results: What kind of engine should the 2004 Lexus GS use?
Normally aspirated V8 (current M5 and GS430)
44
36.67%
Supercharged V8 (like the new AMG E55)
46
38.33%
Twin turbo V8 "SRT"
17
14.17%
Twin turbo V6 "similar to the supra TT"
13
10.83%
supercharged V6
0
0%
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Engine selection for the 2004 GS
11-28-02, 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by IS200 3SGTE
ok how about this a N/A 400HP regular engine but the sports/performance version of it will be a 500HP Supercharged V8, with stiffer suspension, 19" rims, sticky tires, new aero package and sportier bucket seats.
ok how about this a N/A 400HP regular engine but the sports/performance version of it will be a 500HP Supercharged V8, with stiffer suspension, 19" rims, sticky tires, new aero package and sportier bucket seats.
Remember the E55 is 5.5L.
11-28-02, 02:06 AM
#17
Originally posted by Sal Collaziano
This WOULD be nice but there needs to be ENOUGH people to make something like this worth the trouble for the company...
This WOULD be nice but there needs to be ENOUGH people to make something like this worth the trouble for the company...
11-28-02, 11:41 AM
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Hey
They could do it is they want but it prob won't be cost effective but Ferrari's F360 Modena has a 4L 400HP V8.
Ok how about this a 5L 400HP N/A and the performance with a a 5.3L Supercharged 500-550HP GS530.
i don't think that would be unreasonable.
They could do it is they want but it prob won't be cost effective but Ferrari's F360 Modena has a 4L 400HP V8.
Ok how about this a 5L 400HP N/A and the performance with a a 5.3L Supercharged 500-550HP GS530.
i don't think that would be unreasonable.
11-28-02, 12:12 PM
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That Sounds good to me and very marketable..
TO have a strong base motor atleast 400 Horses and an Optional Motor Just all out take can take a Viper to lunch! with 500 Plus horses!
QWK
TO have a strong base motor atleast 400 Horses and an Optional Motor Just all out take can take a Viper to lunch! with 500 Plus horses!
QWK
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11-28-02, 12:34 PM
#20
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Re: Sounds Killer! - I am with IS200
Originally posted by 1QWKGS4
That Sounds good to me and very marketable..
TO have a strong base motor atleast 400 Horses and an Optional Motor Just all out take can take a Viper to lunch! with 500 Plus horses!
QWK
That Sounds good to me and very marketable..
TO have a strong base motor atleast 400 Horses and an Optional Motor Just all out take can take a Viper to lunch! with 500 Plus horses!
QWK
11-28-02, 12:36 PM
#21
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Originally posted by alexus
i dont really see mb or other company having problem with finding clients... i feel they should *GIVE* us this option to choice from more then just GS300 and GS430!
i dont really see mb or other company having problem with finding clients... i feel they should *GIVE* us this option to choice from more then just GS300 and GS430!
11-28-02, 01:50 PM
#22
Sal
Hey dude,
I think 500-550 HP with AWD drive system would make very usable power for any car especially a GS. You have to think the newer Vipers run 0-60MPH in the high 3's and thats with a Professional Driver controlling alot of Wheel Spin..
Personally, I have driven a Viper RT-10 and A 99 GTS and it is very hard to control the car and though its a freakin 'beast' its really hard to get the rated times magazines posts..
So A car well balance and tuned and especially maybe an AWD 550 HP GS would be enough.. Just food for thought..
Later,
QWK
I think 500-550 HP with AWD drive system would make very usable power for any car especially a GS. You have to think the newer Vipers run 0-60MPH in the high 3's and thats with a Professional Driver controlling alot of Wheel Spin..
Personally, I have driven a Viper RT-10 and A 99 GTS and it is very hard to control the car and though its a freakin 'beast' its really hard to get the rated times magazines posts..
So A car well balance and tuned and especially maybe an AWD 550 HP GS would be enough.. Just food for thought..
Later,
QWK
11-28-02, 03:24 PM
#23
Originally posted by Sal Collaziano
Mercedes Bends and BWM are very rich companies. They've been very rich for decades.. That's why they can afford to put out some special cars for their biggest enthusiasts. They can afford to lose money, if they do, to keep their reputation going. Lexus/Toyota has a long way to go...
Mercedes Bends and BWM are very rich companies. They've been very rich for decades.. That's why they can afford to put out some special cars for their biggest enthusiasts. They can afford to lose money, if they do, to keep their reputation going. Lexus/Toyota has a long way to go...
11-28-02, 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by Sal Collaziano
Mercedes Bends and BWM are very rich companies. They've been very rich for decades.. That's why they can afford to put out some special cars for their biggest enthusiasts. They can afford to lose money, if they do, to keep their reputation going. Lexus/Toyota has a long way to go...
Mercedes Bends and BWM are very rich companies. They've been very rich for decades.. That's why they can afford to put out some special cars for their biggest enthusiasts. They can afford to lose money, if they do, to keep their reputation going. Lexus/Toyota has a long way to go...
Originally posted by alexus
i think some people would.. i think it's all about options .. in my opinion they should have
gs300
gs400
gs430
gs500
gs550
and even gs600
'cause some people do have money and some people would rather spend extra few dollars and get better/faster car..
i think some people would.. i think it's all about options .. in my opinion they should have
gs300
gs400
gs430
gs500
gs550
and even gs600
'cause some people do have money and some people would rather spend extra few dollars and get better/faster car..
Anyway...My vote would be for a nice 6-cylinder with a couple of big-*** turbos...
11-28-02, 09:59 PM
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Hey
Toyota has more money than BMW and Benz, they are the 3rd largest auto maker in the world and are investing 1 billion dollars over 3 years (333 million dollars a year! for those you who can't do the math) into the F1 programme and they run numerous engine programs for import drag racing and the new Daytona 24Hr engine (well TRD runs them but they are run by Toyota).
And Toyota owns Lexus, Daihatsu (spelling?) and i believe something else. So don't tell me they have less money than BMW and Benz, MB owns Chrysler but they aren't doing so well.
While other manufacturers are closing down plants Toyota is OPENING more plants to produce more cars!
Toyota are doing very well.
And toyota will not produce 5 engines for 1 product line, it is not cost effective. They will produce 2 engines IE GS500 and GS530S (Supercharged).
See yaz
Toyota has more money than BMW and Benz, they are the 3rd largest auto maker in the world and are investing 1 billion dollars over 3 years (333 million dollars a year! for those you who can't do the math) into the F1 programme and they run numerous engine programs for import drag racing and the new Daytona 24Hr engine (well TRD runs them but they are run by Toyota).
And Toyota owns Lexus, Daihatsu (spelling?) and i believe something else. So don't tell me they have less money than BMW and Benz, MB owns Chrysler but they aren't doing so well.
While other manufacturers are closing down plants Toyota is OPENING more plants to produce more cars!
Toyota are doing very well.
And toyota will not produce 5 engines for 1 product line, it is not cost effective. They will produce 2 engines IE GS500 and GS530S (Supercharged).
See yaz
11-29-02, 03:48 AM
#28
Toyota
I Definetly Agree - You know how many freakin Tercels, Corrolla, And Especially Camrys Toyoyta has sold in the last 30 years..Geezz Can you say Ka-Ching!!
From what I Read Camry- units are like over 400,000 units a year in the US!!! WOW.. Quanity and Quailty too..
Later,
QWK
From what I Read Camry- units are like over 400,000 units a year in the US!!! WOW.. Quanity and Quailty too..
Later,
QWK
11-29-02, 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by IS200 3SGTE
They could do it is they want but it prob won't be cost effective but Ferrari's F360 Modena has a 4L 400HP V8.
Ok how about this a 5L 400HP N/A and the performance with a a 5.3L Supercharged 500-550HP GS530.
i don't think that would be unreasonable.
They could do it is they want but it prob won't be cost effective but Ferrari's F360 Modena has a 4L 400HP V8.
Ok how about this a 5L 400HP N/A and the performance with a a 5.3L Supercharged 500-550HP GS530.
i don't think that would be unreasonable.
The M5 has a 5L NA engine good for 400HP. At that kind of output you begin to run into some reliability issues because the engine is tuned for performance.
A formula-1 engine is good for about 1000HP (at between 10,000 and 15,000 rpms! :eek: ), but it doesn't last more than 1000 miles! Remember there is a trade-off here.
All this talk about huge horsepower for a GS when most people on here wouldn't pay for one anyway.
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11-29-02, 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by bitkahuna
All this talk about huge horsepower for a GS when most people on here wouldn't pay for one anyway.
All this talk about huge horsepower for a GS when most people on here wouldn't pay for one anyway.
Finally , as far as price goes. THIS IS NOT intended to be a replacement for the GS400/430. This should and will be, if produced, a limited production car that will carry a higher price tag...hence, not for everyone. This should NEVER be a reason for it not to be produced.