GS400 vs GS430, what improved\changed between the two models?
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OK so what has changed, I mean like tell me every last detail.
Here's what I've figured out so far:
- Upgrade from 4.0 liters to 4.3 liters (although no increase in peak horsepower or torque?
Did all the extra power just go under the curve, or what?)
-Nakamichi went to Mark Levinson which most people agree was a small but noticable improvement in sound quality.
Navigation was changed to DVD-based instead of hard-drive based, so it's cheaper and easier to update. I also think the screen might have gotten a tad bit larger and higher-resolution.
-The upgraded stereo and navigation can now be ordered together, whereas on the 400 it was one or the other, your choice, period.
- E-shift controls were lost, but steering-wheel audio controls were gained. Not to mention the steering wheel itself seems revised
-I know the tail lights changed, and I've heard once before that the HID headlights were revised to a slightly more efficient style as well.
- Side airbags added
- More wood trim added
- Slightly improved sound-deadening added
- Did the front seats get 'upgraded'? (not sure about this one, let me know)
OK so this is where my knowledge stops and yours begin, just list anything that I've left out or tell me if I've listed anything incorrectly and I'll revise the list. And please forgive me if this has already been posted. I tried searching for "GS400 vs GS430" and got hundreds upon hundreds of threads, but none really seemed to be anything like what I was looking for.
Here's what I've figured out so far:
- Upgrade from 4.0 liters to 4.3 liters (although no increase in peak horsepower or torque?
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-Nakamichi went to Mark Levinson which most people agree was a small but noticable improvement in sound quality.
Navigation was changed to DVD-based instead of hard-drive based, so it's cheaper and easier to update. I also think the screen might have gotten a tad bit larger and higher-resolution.
-The upgraded stereo and navigation can now be ordered together, whereas on the 400 it was one or the other, your choice, period.
- E-shift controls were lost, but steering-wheel audio controls were gained. Not to mention the steering wheel itself seems revised
-I know the tail lights changed, and I've heard once before that the HID headlights were revised to a slightly more efficient style as well.
- Side airbags added
- More wood trim added
- Slightly improved sound-deadening added
- Did the front seats get 'upgraded'? (not sure about this one, let me know)
OK so this is where my knowledge stops and yours begin, just list anything that I've left out or tell me if I've listed anything incorrectly and I'll revise the list. And please forgive me if this has already been posted. I tried searching for "GS400 vs GS430" and got hundreds upon hundreds of threads, but none really seemed to be anything like what I was looking for.
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horsepower stayed the same, torque went up slightly to 325 lbs/ft.
The car became a ULEV (by loosing the E-shift). Titanium rings around the gauges in the instrument cluster. Chrome shifter plate trim. May be, gas tank was re-located slightly. Engine cover is different (nicer, I think).
The car became a ULEV (by loosing the E-shift). Titanium rings around the gauges in the instrument cluster. Chrome shifter plate trim. May be, gas tank was re-located slightly. Engine cover is different (nicer, I think).
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(Nakamichi went to Mark Levinson which most people agree was a small but noticable improvement in sound quality) - Yes, the ML gets rave reviews.
(Navigation was changed to DVD-based instead of hard-drive based, so it's cheaper and easier to update. I also think the screen might have gotten a tad bit larger and higher-resolution) - I believe the Nav. switched to DVD's in 2000 or 2001. I'm not sure when the GS switched to the wide screen display, but it looks nice.
(I know the tail lights changed, and I've heard once before that the HID headlights were revised to a slightly more efficient style as well) - Not sure what "efficient style" means, but in 2001 the headlight housings started to have a blue/green tint.
(More wood trim added) - I think just the wood ashtray, but I could be wrong.
(Slightly improved sound-deadening added) - I haven't heard this before. But newer cars always seem to sound quieter.
(Did the front seats get 'upgraded'?) - if you mean sport seats, no. But some models offered a perforated leather option.
In recent models, Lexus also utilized "rain repellant" front windows. This may have started in 2001 or 2002.
(Navigation was changed to DVD-based instead of hard-drive based, so it's cheaper and easier to update. I also think the screen might have gotten a tad bit larger and higher-resolution) - I believe the Nav. switched to DVD's in 2000 or 2001. I'm not sure when the GS switched to the wide screen display, but it looks nice.
(I know the tail lights changed, and I've heard once before that the HID headlights were revised to a slightly more efficient style as well) - Not sure what "efficient style" means, but in 2001 the headlight housings started to have a blue/green tint.
(More wood trim added) - I think just the wood ashtray, but I could be wrong.
(Slightly improved sound-deadening added) - I haven't heard this before. But newer cars always seem to sound quieter.
(Did the front seats get 'upgraded'?) - if you mean sport seats, no. But some models offered a perforated leather option.
In recent models, Lexus also utilized "rain repellant" front windows. This may have started in 2001 or 2002.
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Another change was that they changed the Silver from "Alpine" to "Millenium". The difference between the two is that the Millenium version has a gold or yellowish tone to it. IMHO it does not look as good as the Alpine version of the Silver. I have a 1999 GS400 which has the alpine version of the Silver and that is one of the reasons why I bought as opposed to anything 2000 and newer.
Also, the torque is higher at 325 lb/ft and this is reached at a lower rpm
Also, the torque is higher at 325 lb/ft and this is reached at a lower rpm
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Originally posted by Hameed
Another change was that they changed the Silver from "Alpine" to "Millenium". The difference between the two is that the Millenium version has a gold or yellowish tone to it. IMHO it does not look as good as the Alpine version of the Silver. I have a 1999 GS400 which has the alpine version of the Silver and that is one of the reasons why I bought as opposed to anything 2000 and newer.
Also, the torque is higher at 325 lb/ft and this is reached at a lower rpm
Another change was that they changed the Silver from "Alpine" to "Millenium". The difference between the two is that the Millenium version has a gold or yellowish tone to it. IMHO it does not look as good as the Alpine version of the Silver. I have a 1999 GS400 which has the alpine version of the Silver and that is one of the reasons why I bought as opposed to anything 2000 and newer.
Also, the torque is higher at 325 lb/ft and this is reached at a lower rpm
Sorry for the stupid question, but I'm a newbie to Lexus and would like to know the slight diff between the years.
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Alpine/Millenium
Just a different shade of silver. The first is is more true silver and the second has a yellowish hue or tinge to the silver. Alpine looks better I think as it is more brighter and silver in color.
Just a different shade of silver. The first is is more true silver and the second has a yellowish hue or tinge to the silver. Alpine looks better I think as it is more brighter and silver in color.
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DVD navigation and rain repellant front front windshield and front side windows were both added in the 2001 model year when the GS430 was introduced.
Perforated seats were just added this year, I think. It's something I wish I had, actually.
Even though E-Shift is gone on the GS430, gate shifting works very well for holding gears and forcing a downshift (e.g., engine braking). It does lose the "cool factor," though.
Can't remember if I saw this, but the GS430 revised the grill slightly and the taillights. Most people seem to prefer the simplified taillights of the GS430, and it's a simple mod to put them on the GS400.
I think the main wood addition was the ashtray area, but I think also it was the first year that the GS4 was offered with a wood-and-leather steering wheel. I could be wrong in that, though. I generally thought that E-Shift and wood-and-leather were mutually-exclusive from Lexus.
Perforated seats were just added this year, I think. It's something I wish I had, actually.
Even though E-Shift is gone on the GS430, gate shifting works very well for holding gears and forcing a downshift (e.g., engine braking). It does lose the "cool factor," though.
Can't remember if I saw this, but the GS430 revised the grill slightly and the taillights. Most people seem to prefer the simplified taillights of the GS430, and it's a simple mod to put them on the GS400.
I think the main wood addition was the ashtray area, but I think also it was the first year that the GS4 was offered with a wood-and-leather steering wheel. I could be wrong in that, though. I generally thought that E-Shift and wood-and-leather were mutually-exclusive from Lexus.
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Originally posted by Hameed
Alpine/Millenium
Just a different shade of silver. The first is is more true silver and the second has a yellowish hue or tinge to the silver. Alpine looks better I think as it is more brighter and silver in color.
Alpine/Millenium
Just a different shade of silver. The first is is more true silver and the second has a yellowish hue or tinge to the silver. Alpine looks better I think as it is more brighter and silver in color.
The 2000gs400's were the last year, hence, they got a little special features.
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Originally posted by mdw131
I personally would rather have the Audio controls the 430 has then the E-shift my 300 has. I have used the e-shift 2-3 times max. I use the radio/CD player everyday.
I personally would rather have the Audio controls the 430 has then the E-shift my 300 has. I have used the e-shift 2-3 times max. I use the radio/CD player everyday.
Anyone else hate those lame volume buttons??
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Originally posted by Gstt
I got a 2000gs400, millenium sliver, LOOKS good 2 me, i don't see no yellowish shade. CRAZY SILVER, More metalic.
The 2000gs400's were the last year, hence, they got a little special features.
I got a 2000gs400, millenium sliver, LOOKS good 2 me, i don't see no yellowish shade. CRAZY SILVER, More metalic.
The 2000gs400's were the last year, hence, they got a little special features.
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Originally posted by Ex996
I don't know about that. I think the steering wheel mounted volume up/down buttons are unacceptable. Tiny, hidden, and super-slow to change the volume. Track selection/mode buttons ok though.
Anyone else hate those lame volume buttons??
I don't know about that. I think the steering wheel mounted volume up/down buttons are unacceptable. Tiny, hidden, and super-slow to change the volume. Track selection/mode buttons ok though.
Anyone else hate those lame volume buttons??
Given that gate shifting offers me the basic features I'd use in E-Shift, I agree that I'd take the redundant stereo controls over E-Shift.