The 2005 GS Jan 6th 2004 @ 8:30 am EST(ALL COMMENTS HERE PLEASE!)Pics pg 19
03-21-04 | 09:08 PM
#886
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Thought this might interest you.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/inde...&sid=178&n=158
i kinda think the info is a little off...but you never know
WOW....doesnt that rear window really look like the new GS...but much uglier
http://www.thecarconnection.com/inde...&sid=178&n=158
i kinda think the info is a little off...but you never know
WOW....doesnt that rear window really look like the new GS...but much uglier
03-24-04 | 02:10 AM
#888
new 3.5-liter V-6 producing 270 hp on the Avalon. It's reasonable to say that the next GS300 with the V6 MIGHT be able to consider this engine choice? I think 270hp is a reasonable amount of HP. It's that it's too close to GS430. Which means the GS430 must be boosted to at least 320hp 
03-24-04 | 10:41 PM
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I read this today from AutoExpress.com
There's been a boom in a raft of new models in the mid-sized executive sector - and that means the current Lexus GS300 and GS430 are starting to look and feel long-in-the-tooth.
The Japanese maker sold only 1,000 GS models in the UK last year, and the downward spiral looks set to continue. But while that's bad news for the current GS, Lexus has high hopes for its replacement - and has taken the unprecedented step of showing the newcomer to the public more than a year before it goes on sale in Europe.
It certainly looked the part on the Lexus stand at the Geneva Motor Show, but how does the 2005 GS fare under scrutiny? And does it have what it takes to do battle with such illustrious rivals as the BMW 5-Series, Mercedes E-Class and new Audi A6? We grabbed an exclusive preview to find out.
The firm certainly can't afford to get it wrong. The next GS is by far the most important Lexus since the original LS400 arrived in 1990, as it marks a number of milestones for the company. It will be the first car to be designed, developed and launched entirely separately from parent Toyota, and will spark the initial phase in separating the two marques into entirely different entities.
Currently, Lexus doesn't exist in Toyota's domestic market in
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Japan. It was created in the late Eighties to give the models a more upmarket identity in the US and Europe. The formula has been so successful that Lexus is now about to hit Japan - ironically, with an American-designed car.
Because the newcomer must satisfy notoriously meticulous Japanese engineers, it's set to be the most advanced and well built Lexus yet. And given the firm's already solid reputation, that will be quite an achievement! The launch GS will have two engines: an all-new 245bhp 3.0-litre V6 in place of the 201bhp straight-six, or a 290bhp 4.3 V8, which will be a revised version of the GS430 unit. A new six-speed auto will be offered on both models, and promises one of the quickest gearshifts in its class. There is still no diesel - at least for now - but a 3.3-litre hybrid is expected, using the engine and 4WD from the 400h RX Hybrid. Inside, the GS gets improvements that will put it on a par with most of its rivals. Engineers have addressed some of the issues that have affected previous models from the firm, and the newcomer does away with the plasticky column stalks and poor ergonomic layout of the current GS. Add in Lexus's reputation for superb refinement, and the GS looks set to become a desirable executive offering.
There's been a boom in a raft of new models in the mid-sized executive sector - and that means the current Lexus GS300 and GS430 are starting to look and feel long-in-the-tooth.
The Japanese maker sold only 1,000 GS models in the UK last year, and the downward spiral looks set to continue. But while that's bad news for the current GS, Lexus has high hopes for its replacement - and has taken the unprecedented step of showing the newcomer to the public more than a year before it goes on sale in Europe.
It certainly looked the part on the Lexus stand at the Geneva Motor Show, but how does the 2005 GS fare under scrutiny? And does it have what it takes to do battle with such illustrious rivals as the BMW 5-Series, Mercedes E-Class and new Audi A6? We grabbed an exclusive preview to find out.
The firm certainly can't afford to get it wrong. The next GS is by far the most important Lexus since the original LS400 arrived in 1990, as it marks a number of milestones for the company. It will be the first car to be designed, developed and launched entirely separately from parent Toyota, and will spark the initial phase in separating the two marques into entirely different entities.
Currently, Lexus doesn't exist in Toyota's domestic market in
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Japan. It was created in the late Eighties to give the models a more upmarket identity in the US and Europe. The formula has been so successful that Lexus is now about to hit Japan - ironically, with an American-designed car.
Because the newcomer must satisfy notoriously meticulous Japanese engineers, it's set to be the most advanced and well built Lexus yet. And given the firm's already solid reputation, that will be quite an achievement! The launch GS will have two engines: an all-new 245bhp 3.0-litre V6 in place of the 201bhp straight-six, or a 290bhp 4.3 V8, which will be a revised version of the GS430 unit. A new six-speed auto will be offered on both models, and promises one of the quickest gearshifts in its class. There is still no diesel - at least for now - but a 3.3-litre hybrid is expected, using the engine and 4WD from the 400h RX Hybrid. Inside, the GS gets improvements that will put it on a par with most of its rivals. Engineers have addressed some of the issues that have affected previous models from the firm, and the newcomer does away with the plasticky column stalks and poor ergonomic layout of the current GS. Add in Lexus's reputation for superb refinement, and the GS looks set to become a desirable executive offering.
03-25-04 | 07:40 AM
#890
Originally posted by jimxo
I read this today from AutoExpress.com
There's been a boom in a raft of new models in the mid-sized executive sector - and that means the current Lexus GS300 and GS430 are starting to look and feel long-in-the-tooth.
The Japanese maker sold only 1,000 GS models in the UK last year, and the downward spiral looks set to continue. But while that's bad news for the current GS, Lexus has high hopes for its replacement - and has taken the unprecedented step of showing the newcomer to the public more than a year before it goes on sale in Europe.
It certainly looked the part on the Lexus stand at the Geneva Motor Show, but how does the 2005 GS fare under scrutiny? And does it have what it takes to do battle with such illustrious rivals as the BMW 5-Series, Mercedes E-Class and new Audi A6? We grabbed an exclusive preview to find out.
The firm certainly can't afford to get it wrong. The next GS is by far the most important Lexus since the original LS400 arrived in 1990, as it marks a number of milestones for the company. It will be the first car to be designed, developed and launched entirely separately from parent Toyota, and will spark the initial phase in separating the two marques into entirely different entities.
Currently, Lexus doesn't exist in Toyota's domestic market in
ADVERTISEMENT
Japan. It was created in the late Eighties to give the models a more upmarket identity in the US and Europe. The formula has been so successful that Lexus is now about to hit Japan - ironically, with an American-designed car.
Because the newcomer must satisfy notoriously meticulous Japanese engineers, it's set to be the most advanced and well built Lexus yet. And given the firm's already solid reputation, that will be quite an achievement! The launch GS will have two engines: an all-new 245bhp 3.0-litre V6 in place of the 201bhp straight-six, or a 290bhp 4.3 V8, which will be a revised version of the GS430 unit. A new six-speed auto will be offered on both models, and promises one of the quickest gearshifts in its class. There is still no diesel - at least for now - but a 3.3-litre hybrid is expected, using the engine and 4WD from the 400h RX Hybrid. Inside, the GS gets improvements that will put it on a par with most of its rivals. Engineers have addressed some of the issues that have affected previous models from the firm, and the newcomer does away with the plasticky column stalks and poor ergonomic layout of the current GS. Add in Lexus's reputation for superb refinement, and the GS looks set to become a desirable executive offering.
I read this today from AutoExpress.com
There's been a boom in a raft of new models in the mid-sized executive sector - and that means the current Lexus GS300 and GS430 are starting to look and feel long-in-the-tooth.
The Japanese maker sold only 1,000 GS models in the UK last year, and the downward spiral looks set to continue. But while that's bad news for the current GS, Lexus has high hopes for its replacement - and has taken the unprecedented step of showing the newcomer to the public more than a year before it goes on sale in Europe.
It certainly looked the part on the Lexus stand at the Geneva Motor Show, but how does the 2005 GS fare under scrutiny? And does it have what it takes to do battle with such illustrious rivals as the BMW 5-Series, Mercedes E-Class and new Audi A6? We grabbed an exclusive preview to find out.
The firm certainly can't afford to get it wrong. The next GS is by far the most important Lexus since the original LS400 arrived in 1990, as it marks a number of milestones for the company. It will be the first car to be designed, developed and launched entirely separately from parent Toyota, and will spark the initial phase in separating the two marques into entirely different entities.
Currently, Lexus doesn't exist in Toyota's domestic market in
ADVERTISEMENT
Japan. It was created in the late Eighties to give the models a more upmarket identity in the US and Europe. The formula has been so successful that Lexus is now about to hit Japan - ironically, with an American-designed car.
Because the newcomer must satisfy notoriously meticulous Japanese engineers, it's set to be the most advanced and well built Lexus yet. And given the firm's already solid reputation, that will be quite an achievement! The launch GS will have two engines: an all-new 245bhp 3.0-litre V6 in place of the 201bhp straight-six, or a 290bhp 4.3 V8, which will be a revised version of the GS430 unit. A new six-speed auto will be offered on both models, and promises one of the quickest gearshifts in its class. There is still no diesel - at least for now - but a 3.3-litre hybrid is expected, using the engine and 4WD from the 400h RX Hybrid. Inside, the GS gets improvements that will put it on a par with most of its rivals. Engineers have addressed some of the issues that have affected previous models from the firm, and the newcomer does away with the plasticky column stalks and poor ergonomic layout of the current GS. Add in Lexus's reputation for superb refinement, and the GS looks set to become a desirable executive offering.
04-02-04 | 07:29 AM
#892
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New lean mean lexus
Hi all, check this out !
Could it mean that the new GS will have a 400hp 5.0-V8 ? if you do not go for the AWD option ?
Hope it wasn't an April fools joke
Check out this story
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?<a hre...zda_banner</a>
Here is the story:
Mean, Green Lexus On Way
Things look set to get highly charged at Toyota. The company intends to enter the performance saloon market with a family of Lexus models that will all feature hybrid technology.
Engineers are currently working on two machines, one of which will be a new version of the flagship LS. However, first to hit the road will be the GS350 GT, which was unveiled at the Detroit Motor Show. Expected in August 2005 and aimed at the Mercedes E55 AMG, it will mark Lexus' first anniversary of sales in Japan, and sport a 300bhp 3.5-litre V6 mated to a 170bhp electric motor. Offering an astounding 470bhp, the car will feature all-wheel drive and be capable of around 60mpg.
But if you think that sounds impressive, then just wait another 12 months, when Lexus' ultimate hybrid - the LS500 GT - will appear. Combining a 400bhp 5.0-litre V8 with a 200bhp electric motor, the car will offer at least 600bhp and be targeted at the Mercedes S-Class flagship, the S600L.
To predicted improvements in battery technology, economy of more than 50mpg is expected - double the standards set by traditional petrol engines of equivalent performance.
But the march to bring eco-friendly performance technology to Lexus models won't stop there. The firm's popular IS will inherit a new flagship when it is replaced in 2006. The IS350 GT will offer a tuned version of the 3.5-litre V6 that will be in the GS. However, it's not clear if it will sport a hybrid powerplant, although it may integrate some of the bigger syst***s fuel-saving technology, including engine stop and start systems which save fuel in stationary traffic.
For now, the cost of hybrid technology means it's likely to be reserved for Toyota and Lexus' most expensive models. However, at the Geneva Motor Show this month, one Toyota insider told us that the company was committed to hybrid cars, and that ultimately they will be available right across both ranges.
Peter Lyon
Could it mean that the new GS will have a 400hp 5.0-V8 ? if you do not go for the AWD option ?
Hope it wasn't an April fools joke
Check out this story
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?<a hre...zda_banner</a>
Here is the story:
Mean, Green Lexus On Way
Things look set to get highly charged at Toyota. The company intends to enter the performance saloon market with a family of Lexus models that will all feature hybrid technology.
Engineers are currently working on two machines, one of which will be a new version of the flagship LS. However, first to hit the road will be the GS350 GT, which was unveiled at the Detroit Motor Show. Expected in August 2005 and aimed at the Mercedes E55 AMG, it will mark Lexus' first anniversary of sales in Japan, and sport a 300bhp 3.5-litre V6 mated to a 170bhp electric motor. Offering an astounding 470bhp, the car will feature all-wheel drive and be capable of around 60mpg.
But if you think that sounds impressive, then just wait another 12 months, when Lexus' ultimate hybrid - the LS500 GT - will appear. Combining a 400bhp 5.0-litre V8 with a 200bhp electric motor, the car will offer at least 600bhp and be targeted at the Mercedes S-Class flagship, the S600L.
To predicted improvements in battery technology, economy of more than 50mpg is expected - double the standards set by traditional petrol engines of equivalent performance.
But the march to bring eco-friendly performance technology to Lexus models won't stop there. The firm's popular IS will inherit a new flagship when it is replaced in 2006. The IS350 GT will offer a tuned version of the 3.5-litre V6 that will be in the GS. However, it's not clear if it will sport a hybrid powerplant, although it may integrate some of the bigger syst***s fuel-saving technology, including engine stop and start systems which save fuel in stationary traffic.
For now, the cost of hybrid technology means it's likely to be reserved for Toyota and Lexus' most expensive models. However, at the Geneva Motor Show this month, one Toyota insider told us that the company was committed to hybrid cars, and that ultimately they will be available right across both ranges.
Peter Lyon
04-02-04 | 08:32 AM
#893
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Re: New lean mean lexus
Originally posted by pfsacer
[B]Hi all, check this out !
Could it mean that the new GS will have a 400hp 5.0-V8 ? if you do not go for the AWD option ?
Hope it wasn't an April fools joke
Check out this story
[B]Hi all, check this out !
Could it mean that the new GS will have a 400hp 5.0-V8 ? if you do not go for the AWD option ?
Hope it wasn't an April fools joke
Check out this story
The LS is supposed to have a 5.0 liter V8 with 400hp and 200hp electric motor combining for 600hp. All according to the article, anyway.
Pretty impressive if any of it is true. Doesn't look like they are combining the 4.3 V8 with hybrid technology.
Last edited by looknow12; 04-02-04 at 08:32 AM.
04-02-04 | 08:36 AM
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HYBRID Question
I see Lexus/Toyota take HP figures for their Hybrids and basically calculating the total HP by adding the gas and electric motor's HP together. Is that a correct way of doing it?
For example, if you have two motors together outputting 100HP does that really mean your HP output is 200? I'd suspect maybe torque might be increased, but HP I'm not sure of.
To me, it's kind of like running things in parallel or serial when it comes to DC electricity. One provides double to voltage, the other basically gives you longer run time.
Can anyone shed light on this to clear up my confusion?
For example, if you have two motors together outputting 100HP does that really mean your HP output is 200? I'd suspect maybe torque might be increased, but HP I'm not sure of.
To me, it's kind of like running things in parallel or serial when it comes to DC electricity. One provides double to voltage, the other basically gives you longer run time.
Can anyone shed light on this to clear up my confusion?
04-02-04 | 08:44 AM
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I understand, however they mention the GS350GT beiing a tuned version of the 300hp V6, they do not mention the V8 GS???, however they mention coming with a V8-5.0L 400 hp for the new LS, this engine could very well be in the new GS with and without AWD
04-04-04 | 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by jimxo
Thank you all for making this thread the largest ever.
900
Thank you all for making this thread the largest ever.
900
04-05-04 | 04:20 PM
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Wouldn't suprise me at all to see Lexus give us more info this coming week at the NY Autoshow.. I agree with you if the GS350GT is true then this thread will go bonkers..
Last edited by 2SAVVY; 04-05-04 at 04:21 PM.