2006 Gs300 Rwd Msrp
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I think its absolutely bull**** to get a base RWD car for a non-base price.
Its exactly like that X+Y equation. Where X is the price of the base car...and Y is the option that has to be selected in order to buy the vehicle, making your true cost higher than what it should have been.
Here i was hoping to spend around 45-46K , and now its just gonna cost just over 50K after taxes.
I think ill have to talk to my dealer and see what he do for me so i can stay within where i want to. Maybe thats a waste of time to even think that but i dont know...maybe hell work it out with me.
Its exactly like that X+Y equation. Where X is the price of the base car...and Y is the option that has to be selected in order to buy the vehicle, making your true cost higher than what it should have been.
Here i was hoping to spend around 45-46K , and now its just gonna cost just over 50K after taxes.
I think ill have to talk to my dealer and see what he do for me so i can stay within where i want to. Maybe thats a waste of time to even think that but i dont know...maybe hell work it out with me.
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To be fair, Lexus has probably proven itself enough to command a somewhat hefty increase in prices. It'd be nice to be priced lower than Infiniti and Acura, but with higher "name" comes higher prices, necessarily.
Also, it makes sense moonroof would be standard in later model years, then switched back to an option on a new release. It's a way for car companies to continually increase price throughout. You make more options mandatory, you bump up HP, add a couple new features, and then you can justify continually raising prices throughout the model life cycle. When the next mark is released, you raise the price a little bit more and revert previously standard equipment back to options so that consumers don't get sticker shock from the otherwise much higher base price.
Another trick that I've only seen Lexus use is this X+Y base pricing scheme. Clever, I must say. Deceiving, I also must say.
Also, it makes sense moonroof would be standard in later model years, then switched back to an option on a new release. It's a way for car companies to continually increase price throughout. You make more options mandatory, you bump up HP, add a couple new features, and then you can justify continually raising prices throughout the model life cycle. When the next mark is released, you raise the price a little bit more and revert previously standard equipment back to options so that consumers don't get sticker shock from the otherwise much higher base price.
Another trick that I've only seen Lexus use is this X+Y base pricing scheme. Clever, I must say. Deceiving, I also must say.
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Elizabeth, I don't see a thread on more detailed pricing info for the 300 AWD. Do you not have that info because Longo won't get any for 3 months? If that's the case, then any Northeastern Lexus dealers have this info?
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Originally Posted by akbergq
I think its absolutely bull**** to get a base RWD car for a non-base price.
Its exactly like that X+Y equation. Where X is the price of the base car...and Y is the option that has to be selected in order to buy the vehicle, making your true cost higher than what it should have been.
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Its exactly like that X+Y equation. Where X is the price of the base car...and Y is the option that has to be selected in order to buy the vehicle, making your true cost higher than what it should have been.
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Is Lexus that worried about being called a copy cat to go the Acura route and call it as it is - we only sell loaded cars (NAV is the only real option)?
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Originally Posted by biker
I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to sue Lexus for false advertising. I mean if there's no car that you can buy for the advertised base price, why advertise it so?
Is Lexus that worried about being called a copy cat to go the Acura route and call it as it is - we only sell loaded cars (NAV is the only real option)?![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Is Lexus that worried about being called a copy cat to go the Acura route and call it as it is - we only sell loaded cars (NAV is the only real option)?
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I would bet that the loop hole is that Lexus themselves don't require the add on packages, but all the dealers themselves require it. Maybe it is an unwritten agreement to avoid just such lawsuits. Lexus can always just claim the dealers make and sell their own packages. If that is not the case, I wouls agree that they shouldn't even bother listing the base price if it can't be had that way.
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Originally Posted by biker
I wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to sue Lexus for false advertising. I mean if there's no car that you can buy for the advertised base price, why advertise it so?
Is Lexus that worried about being called a copy cat to go the Acura route and call it as it is - we only sell loaded cars (NAV is the only real option)?![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Is Lexus that worried about being called a copy cat to go the Acura route and call it as it is - we only sell loaded cars (NAV is the only real option)?
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Originally Posted by flipside909
You still can get that "base" model car, but it won't be as readily available as a car with the popular options for that specific region.
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Originally Posted by biker
From the sound of it, no you can't.
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
Elizabeth, I don't see a thread on more detailed pricing info for the 300 AWD. Do you not have that info because Longo won't get any for 3 months? If that's the case, then any Northeastern Lexus dealers have this info?
No AWD's coming to the Western area for the first 3 months so yes, please check with your local Maryland dealer.
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Elizabeth...are you positive about the wood steering and wood shifter being standard on the base RWD GS300? Im asking because weve seen cars at the autoshows that have plain leather steering and leather shifters without any wood on either, like the picture from the member who went to the portland autoshow.
Can i order the base car now from a dealership, now that the pricing and packages have been determined? I dont want the premium package....just the base GS300 that is 42,900.
If i order now, do you think i can have it by end of march or april? or, when do u think ill be able to get it?
thanks so much =)
Can i order the base car now from a dealership, now that the pricing and packages have been determined? I dont want the premium package....just the base GS300 that is 42,900.
If i order now, do you think i can have it by end of march or april? or, when do u think ill be able to get it?
thanks so much =)
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Originally Posted by akbergq
Elizabeth...are you positive about the wood steering and wood shifter being standard on the base RWD GS300? Im asking because weve seen cars at the autoshows that have plain leather steering and leather shifters without any wood on either, like the picture from the member who went to the portland autoshow.
Can i order the base car now from a dealership, now that the pricing and packages have been determined? I dont want the premium package....just the base GS300 that is 42,900.
If i order now, do you think i can have it by end of march or april? or, when do u think ill be able to get it?
thanks so much =)
Can i order the base car now from a dealership, now that the pricing and packages have been determined? I dont want the premium package....just the base GS300 that is 42,900.
If i order now, do you think i can have it by end of march or april? or, when do u think ill be able to get it?
thanks so much =)
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Originally Posted by spwolf
is the premium package mandatory or?
Or did Elizabeth wanted to say that it wont be available as much (or at all) except for special orders?
Base GS is really hardly an "base" car - it is better equiped that most cars in its class, but I guess they also want to compete with BMW and MB with prices as well just offering more equipment. It doesnt make much sense really, to me it sounds much better like:
GS 300 Base - 42k
GS 300 Premium - 45k
GS 300 Premium with NAV and ML system - 49k
By calling it an package and not what it is - an model, you might have some disgruntled potential customers. I know thats how Lexus does things, it might attract customers to the showrooms but as long as the base is available, then it is ok. If base car can not be ordered, then it is obviously something you can easily get worked up on.
It is something that is fairly obvious when you research over the net, but easily understandable if you are at the showroom...
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Originally Posted by spwolf
I am really confused here. If Premium package is MANDATORY, how is then moonroof optional when it comes with Premium package?
Or did Elizabeth wanted to say that it wont be available as much (or at all) except for special orders?
Base GS is really hardly an "base" car - it is better equiped that most cars in its class, but I guess they also want to compete with BMW and MB with prices as well just offering more equipment. It doesnt make much sense really, to me it sounds much better like:
GS 300 Base - 42k
GS 300 Premium - 45k
GS 300 Premium with NAV and ML system - 49k
By calling it an package and not what it is - an model, you might have some disgruntled potential customers. I know thats how Lexus does things, it might attract customers to the showrooms but as long as the base is available, then it is ok. If base car can not be ordered, then it is obviously something you can easily get worked up on.
It is something that is fairly obvious when you research over the net, but easily understandable if you are at the showroom...
Or did Elizabeth wanted to say that it wont be available as much (or at all) except for special orders?
Base GS is really hardly an "base" car - it is better equiped that most cars in its class, but I guess they also want to compete with BMW and MB with prices as well just offering more equipment. It doesnt make much sense really, to me it sounds much better like:
GS 300 Base - 42k
GS 300 Premium - 45k
GS 300 Premium with NAV and ML system - 49k
By calling it an package and not what it is - an model, you might have some disgruntled potential customers. I know thats how Lexus does things, it might attract customers to the showrooms but as long as the base is available, then it is ok. If base car can not be ordered, then it is obviously something you can easily get worked up on.
It is something that is fairly obvious when you research over the net, but easily understandable if you are at the showroom...
Also, I would like to mention the reason I "broke it down" for everyone is so you could see exactly what you are getting and paying for. I really did not do it to confuse people or "disgruntle" them. Most car buying internet sites do it this way also (ie. CarsDirect).
That being said, what color would you like to get Spywolf? (lol)
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It is simple. Dealers order the cars they feel they have the best chance of selling. They usually bundle the most requested/sold packages.
Its rare for people to buy a Lexus base, with nothing. As rare as the 1% of Lexus with cloth seats. But it can be done, you just have to be patient. It is a new release.
Dealers have ordered cars and Lexus has sent cars they think they will sell in what areas. As Elizabeth has stated, the South pretty much won't get AWD. We don't really need it (except for this weekend, lol).
Besides, you can order from any dealer you want, if its that important. And yeah, the dealer would rather want to sell whats on the lot, but they can make a special order. For a luxury car, that can take 6-8 months. Any brand.
The price is very competative and on par with the outgoing model considering its all new and the new features the previous car did not have nor offer.
Its rare for people to buy a Lexus base, with nothing. As rare as the 1% of Lexus with cloth seats. But it can be done, you just have to be patient. It is a new release.
Dealers have ordered cars and Lexus has sent cars they think they will sell in what areas. As Elizabeth has stated, the South pretty much won't get AWD. We don't really need it (except for this weekend, lol).
Besides, you can order from any dealer you want, if its that important. And yeah, the dealer would rather want to sell whats on the lot, but they can make a special order. For a luxury car, that can take 6-8 months. Any brand.
The price is very competative and on par with the outgoing model considering its all new and the new features the previous car did not have nor offer.