Should I wait for the GS 350?
#17
Lexus Connoisseur
Times have changed! No one in 1990 would ever imagine the $35k LS hit a pricetag of over $60k 15 years later.
#18
Lexus Test Driver
Gen 1 GS300 was 51K in 1997!
Originally Posted by GRAND_LS 4
52K for a GS300??!!!!
#19
Originally Posted by GS3rdwow
Is it true that you're better off buying an 05 limited avalon, than an 05 ES330?
Iv been told that all dealers r discounting the 05ES330's already, some already at sticker. Why???? Is it because the Avalon is more powerful and offers more for the same amount of money? And lexus knows this car will drastically hurt their ES330 sales so they r discounting it???
My friend is looking into an 05 ES330, but when he saw what the avalon entialed and what you get with the limited, etc...he was totally BLOWN away!
Iv been told that all dealers r discounting the 05ES330's already, some already at sticker. Why???? Is it because the Avalon is more powerful and offers more for the same amount of money? And lexus knows this car will drastically hurt their ES330 sales so they r discounting it???
My friend is looking into an 05 ES330, but when he saw what the avalon entialed and what you get with the limited, etc...he was totally BLOWN away!
Is your friend an AARP member? If so, ignore my post.
#21
Lexus Fanatic
For me...I like my car to at least "look" fresh as long as possible, so if you ask me, I'd say that you should buy the car in its first year. The car will retain its resale value for the longest time too.
#22
An educated and informed consumer could have deduced that BMW will bump the power on the 5 series somewhat soon (it will be about 18 months) after the intro of the E60. Did that affect the sales? Very little - maybe marginally now that the newer E60 is just 2-3 months out. The same thing will happen with the GS - about 18 months after intro they'll bump the power (and add some other features). With Lexus following the BMW model (change features/ drivetrain models fairly often) it will be hard to make buying decisions on a certain configuration. Kinda like a PC - there's always some upgrade right around the corner. If you like/want the car just buy it - it will be updated in 18 mo-2 years regardless of when you buy it.
#23
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Originally Posted by biker
An educated and informed consumer could have deduced that BMW will bump the power on the 5 series somewhat soon (it will be about 18 months) after the intro of the E60. Did that affect the sales? Very little - maybe marginally now that the newer E60 is just 2-3 months out. The same thing will happen with the GS - about 18 months after intro they'll bump the power (and add some other features). With Lexus following the BMW model (change features/ drivetrain models fairly often) it will be hard to make buying decisions on a certain configuration. Kinda like a PC - there's always some upgrade right around the corner. If you like/want the car just buy it - it will be updated in 18 mo-2 years regardless of when you buy it.
I hope that's not gonna happen to Lexus... Maybe it already has... Like the GX, each year something new:
2003 was first year, 2004 had the backup camera, 2005 has the bluetooth, 2006 ?
#24
Originally Posted by magneto112
You think thats overpriced, how about a 184 hp car for 55K???(5-series) Makes 245hp seem quite nice.
#25
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Originally Posted by spwolf
actually 184hp is BMW hp... it is magical!
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GS3 - The next PC phenomenon
Originally Posted by yaro1
Don't mention PCs. After I bought one and before it even shipped the price had already dropped $300 because a new model came out. I was pissed (thank god I fought for the $300, I mean dell doesn't realy need that extra $$$).
I hope that's not gonna happen to Lexus... Maybe it already has... Like the GX, each year something new:
2003 was first year, 2004 had the backup camera, 2005 has the bluetooth, 2006 ?
I hope that's not gonna happen to Lexus... Maybe it already has... Like the GX, each year something new:
2003 was first year, 2004 had the backup camera, 2005 has the bluetooth, 2006 ?
BTW, I think the GS exterior is beautiful. The interior has many flaws such as: lesser head room; under brightness with the overhead LED lights (just the plain old style lighting would have been better); overly complicated and poor placements of switches on NAV models; driver side fold down pocket to consolidate switches to one location was a nice try but it makes it way too difficult and dangerous to find and use simple functions while driving; no illuminated entry system like the RX; no adjustable or reclining rear seats. As for the powertrain, nothing exciting to speak of.
Back to the original topic, I would wait for awhile at the minimum to see the market price of the car once the newness wears off. Lexus has way overpriced the car or maybe it is because of declining US dollars. A lot of people will wait for the second year bug fixes and the GS350 upgrade. Afterall, Lexus is a like a PC now.
Last edited by wogey; 02-24-05 at 02:41 AM.
#28
Lexus Connoisseur
Originally Posted by wogey
Dealers have already started discounting on the 06 GS300. The new slogan should be the next GS PC Depreciation Phenomenon have begun. The cars are just not moving out as fast as they thought with no discount MSRP pricing. People are not lining up for these cars like the RX400h. This type of artificially delaying of technology like the availabilty of the GS350 will backfire on Lexus and will really hurt the future resale values of the brand. Lexus doesn't want people to buy their cars, they are gambling that people will forever lease cars with them on a 2 to 3 year cycle.
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Originally Posted by wogey
Dealers have already started discounting on the 06 GS300. The new slogan should be the next GS PC Depreciation Phenomenon have begun. The cars are just not moving out as fast as they thought with no discount MSRP pricing. People are not lining up for these cars like the RX400h. This type of artificially delaying of technology like the availabilty of the GS350 will backfire on Lexus and will really hurt the future resale values of the brand. Lexus doesn't want people to buy their cars, they are gambling that people will forever lease cars with them on a 2 to 3 year cycle.
BTW, I think the GS exterior is beautiful. The interior has many flaws such as: lesser head room; under brightness with the overhead LED lights (just the plain old style lighting would have been better); overly complicated and poor placements of switches on NAV models; driver side fold down pocket to consolidate switches to one location was a nice try but it makes it way too difficult and dangerous to find and use simple functions while driving; no illuminated entry system like the RX; no adjustable or reclining rear seats. As for the powertrain, nothing exciting to speak of.
Back to the original topic, I would wait for awhile at the minimum to see the market price of the car once the newness wears off. Lexus has way overpriced the car or maybe it is because of declining US dollars. A lot of people will wait for the second year bug fixes and the GS350 upgrade. Afterall, Lexus is a like a PC now.
BTW, I think the GS exterior is beautiful. The interior has many flaws such as: lesser head room; under brightness with the overhead LED lights (just the plain old style lighting would have been better); overly complicated and poor placements of switches on NAV models; driver side fold down pocket to consolidate switches to one location was a nice try but it makes it way too difficult and dangerous to find and use simple functions while driving; no illuminated entry system like the RX; no adjustable or reclining rear seats. As for the powertrain, nothing exciting to speak of.
Back to the original topic, I would wait for awhile at the minimum to see the market price of the car once the newness wears off. Lexus has way overpriced the car or maybe it is because of declining US dollars. A lot of people will wait for the second year bug fixes and the GS350 upgrade. Afterall, Lexus is a like a PC now.
Depreciation, don't get me started on other brands bub......
#30
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
bub, the car is not even officially on sale yet March 1st is that date. Overpriced, no, clearly the MARKET doesn't think so (best selling 5 years running). LEDs are superior to any halogen bulb. So you would rather 500 buttons on the dash like most other cars instead of rarely used ones hidden away?
Depreciation, don't get me started on other brands bub......
Depreciation, don't get me started on other brands bub......