psteng19

For me, it's a no brainer.
Avalon > ES330 because the ES330 is fugly.

flipside909

Well it's just like people here in America who favor import cars or those overseas prefer something imported to their country. Kind of like the GTO made in Australia with an American nameplate. The Pronard with a Japanese nameplate and an American build. It's all preference.

LexFather

lmao. Simple execution

akbergq

I dotn klnow about the ES330 being ugly...lol so i dont know about that comment. lol


what i do know is the avalon is one hell of a car at a bargain price. It doesnt really make sense to get an ES, when you can buy an avalon limited base for the exact same price equipped the same way as the ES and just get MORE. Both cars are attractive. Toyota have done a hell of a dam good job with their flagship!

LexFather

THe ES's demise is greatlly exaggerated. Why? Nissan sells
loaded Altima
Maxima
G35
All at the same price and they all are solid sellers.(the I35 did get discontinued)

VW has
loaded Jetta
Passat
A4
All at the same price and they all sell too

Toyota has
loaded Camry
Avalon
ES 330
IS 250.350
All at the same price and they all will sell

Honda
TSX Euro Accord
American Accord
TL

All at the same price and they all sell

And when I mean teh same price, the car's prices mix depending on options. SImply different strokes for different folks.

psteng19

Agreed.
I don't think a significant amount of sales will be taken away from one or the other.
Lexus/Toyota are posting double digit % gains every month and nothing in sight seems to be able to stop this juggernaut.

The ES was the best selling entry-lux car in it's class.
The Camry was the best selling car period.
The Avalon will continue to bolster Toyota's hold in the $30k range.

AJL0365

thank you, when i started this kind of thread in the ES forum, sounded like everyone responding was gettin kinda B*TCHY about it, but what im trying to say is there is that the avalon limited basically should be probably considered as an baby ES, basically everything about the avalon is better than the ES i mean it even has reclining rear seats, something nit found in a mercedes s430. the avalon needs to be compared to automakers like acura TL and Infiniti G-Sedan with what it has

Lexusfreak

The next generation ES will be based on the all new (2005) Avalons platform. I'm just really courious about horsepower, torque numbers along with interior room. I'm looking forward to some 'spy pics' of the next gen ES hopefully by summer!

akbergq

I can pretty much tell you the design is already laid out and some ppl who work for toyota have already seen it... *cough cough*

akbergq

The MID disply in the avalon limited with navigation houses almost the exact same display and settings as the new GS. The different display screens for audio, temperature, etc is almost exactly the same , not just in terms of the types of info it displays, but also some, NOT ALL, of the entire physical display type is identical to that of the GS MID displays. I couldnt believe it!





Yes ryan, 2006 RWD GS
Feb 20th 2006 1:30pm?
Flint Mica/ash
Loaded
Very pretty car
Trying to get the stock rims changed to GS430 5 spoke rims ...still working on it

I havent been on much on clublexus as i was out on business and came back a couple days back.

L-Finesser

The Avalon is a Japanese Buick -- albeit a brilliant one.
The GS is a Japanese BMW, sort of.