Car and Driver $55K sedan comparo: 1) M45, 2) RL, 3) GS430, 4) E350, 5) A6, 6) 530i
04-01-05, 02:41 AM
#166
Originally Posted by AJL0365
did yall know that the RL has paddle shifters? never knew that
04-01-05, 02:47 AM
#167
Originally Posted by GS3rdwow
yes i knew that...its pretty stupid though - i think it looks tacky behind the wheel. A t least the old GS had it ON the steering wheel, but now its awesome on the actual transmission shifter.
Last edited by CK6Speed; 04-01-05 at 02:59 AM.
04-01-05, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
To be honest, I like the idea of clutchless manual tranmissions with paddle shifters. I'm a big F1 fan. I grew up driving manual cars for 17 years but I like SMG type transmissions. It is a good comrpomise of the manual and automatic. That said, I undersatind the IS250 will get the MMT/SMT, but the IS350 will still get a torque convertor automatic. In this case this puts a big damper on the paddle shifter in the IS350. I really hope Lexus puts the MMT/SMT transmission on the IS350 as well.
04-01-05, 09:48 AM
#169
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
That said, I undersatind the IS250 will get the MMT/SMT, but the IS350 will still get a torque convertor automatic. In this case this puts a big damper on the paddle shifter in the IS350. I really hope Lexus puts the MMT/SMT transmission on the IS350 as well.
http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?t=246590
So NO SMT/MMT whatsoever for the new IS for now.
04-01-05, 10:37 AM
#170
Originally Posted by XeroK00L
Lexus has admitted they made a typo in their PR.
http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?t=246590
So NO SMT/MMT whatsoever for the new IS for now.
http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?t=246590
So NO SMT/MMT whatsoever for the new IS for now.
That is even worse news. Now, I probably would get the IS350 even with the manumatic auto, but it would have been that much better if it had the MMT
Judging by the speculated performance numbers from Lexus on the IS250, it really needed a good transmission with good gearing. It kind of makes sense now why they claimed upper 7 second range 0-60 for ther IS250. It probably was true automatic numbers.PS. Now that I read the correction closely, it appears the IS250 will get a traditional clutch manual. This is good news, but still leaves me wondering why the slow 0-60? Anyway, I still hope they offer a MMT because I like the manual, but my wife needs to drive it as well on occation (Well, if I get the car) and she needs the automatic. Oh well, I guess we just have to wait until the actual release.
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04-01-05, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
That is even worse news. Now, I probably would get the IS350 even with the manumatic auto, but it would have been that much better if it had the MMT Judging by the speculated performance numbers from Lexus on the IS250, it really needed a good transmission with good gearing. It kind of makes sense now why they claimed upper 7 second range 0-60 for ther IS250. It probably was true automatic numbers.
PS. Now that I read the correction closely, it appears the IS250 will get a traditional clutch manual. This is good news, but still leaves me wondering why the slow 0-60? Anyway, I still hope they offer a MMT because I like the manual, but my wife needs to drive it as well on occation (Well, if I get the car) and she needs the automatic. Oh well, I guess we just have to wait until the actual release.
Judging by the speculated performance numbers from Lexus on the IS250, it really needed a good transmission with good gearing. It kind of makes sense now why they claimed upper 7 second range 0-60 for ther IS250. It probably was true automatic numbers.PS. Now that I read the correction closely, it appears the IS250 will get a traditional clutch manual. This is good news, but still leaves me wondering why the slow 0-60? Anyway, I still hope they offer a MMT because I like the manual, but my wife needs to drive it as well on occation (Well, if I get the car) and she needs the automatic. Oh well, I guess we just have to wait until the actual release.
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04-03-05, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lexy GS430
Can anyone explain how come the RL got second place. 
. Is it that much better then the the third gen 430. 
. Is it that much better then the the third gen 430.
04-03-05, 10:50 AM
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545i and E500 would have placed much, much higher in this comparison. I own 545i and GS400 and the 545i runs laps against my lexus. And even the 2006 Gs430. This is the worst comparison test I've seen by C/D in a long time.
IMO the RL should NOT have been in this comparison at all. How ever when they do C/D comparison of all V6 AWD performance luxury sedans, it's very possible it will place on top or at least top 2. I used to work for Infiniti and now Lexus, but the BMW is the ultimate DRIVING machine. This C/D comparo is terrible!
IMO the RL should NOT have been in this comparison at all. How ever when they do C/D comparison of all V6 AWD performance luxury sedans, it's very possible it will place on top or at least top 2. I used to work for Infiniti and now Lexus, but the BMW is the ultimate DRIVING machine. This C/D comparo is terrible!
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