Infiniti M-series a possible contender?
05-16-05, 09:26 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by LexusPride
Lexus is different things to different people, I mean, to car enthusiasts the cars lack soul. Lexus is number one in luxury sales but one of the largest markets they swallowed was the 45-70 year-old Cadillac/Lincoln buyers, not necessarily BMW and MB. Look at Toyota, they compete with Honda, yet they have like 9 more models in their lineup, but yet Honda is near the top for sales/quality/satisfaction awards in every category it competes, which is only a handful. I find it funny when I see people post here after specs are released for a new model, knowing deep down they're probably hoping that the HP numbers will finally be on par or better than the competition, but when they're not, they're the first ones defending Lexus about being more than HP numbers, not getting into HP wars, luxury not sport, blah, blah, blah...Yet, when the IS350 is announced, all of a sudden the argument changes, BMW getting its *** kicked, bye bye G35, look out AMG. Then its leaking headlights, but don't complain, other companies are much worse...really? Because last I checked, Lexus wasn't blowing away everyone, actually Infiniti and Acura are right behind, heck even Cadillac. Let's remember something people, the RX makes up a very large chunk of sales, an SUV of all things!! Followed by the ES, an ENTRY LEVEL luxury car! I bought my loaded 2001 GS300 with less than 4k miles on it for $30k, still smelled new. Now that same car will cost me an extra $18k after the same depreciation, and only 20 more HP. I never thought I'd pay over $50k for a GS3, but that's only because BMW and MB are so overpriced, so now Lexus isn't that great a value.
You go to a Infiniti forum, and comments will generally be something like: "The M has awesome performance, and more than enough luxury for the average buyer. The GS is too underpowered and is not fun to drive."
At a Lexus forum: "The GS has awesome luxury and refinement, and more than enough sport for the average buyer. The M is too unrefined and is basically a Nissan."
In this $50k class, the name prestige counts for a lot. Infiniti really doesn't have much of it. I'm surprised it has done as well as it has.
05-17-05, 07:47 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by jrock65
In this $50k class, the name prestige counts for a lot. Infiniti really doesn't have much of it. I'm surprised it has done as well as it has.
I' ve always like the unique styling of the FX, it looks more cool than the new M to me, but if I want a 4 passenger vehicle that drives sporty but have more interior space & is more luxurious, the M35/45 is probably a better choice than the FX unless you need to carry big boxes all the time.
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05-17-05, 04:39 PM
#36
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Well it's funny to me that the same people who preach M>GS keep reiterating the same thing over and over again for the past 4 months since these cars came out. Can you say old? 
It's a Lexus forum love it or hate it, there is always going to be Lexus bias. Deal with it, get over it and move on. You're not going to convince or change the minds of those who favor the GS overall.
It's a Lexus forum love it or hate it, there is always going to be Lexus bias. Deal with it, get over it and move on. You're not going to convince or change the minds of those who favor the GS overall.
05-17-05, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by flipside909
Well it's funny to me that the same people who preach M>GS keep reiterating the same thing over and over again for the past 4 months since these cars came out. Can you say old?
It's a Lexus forum love it or hate it, there is always going to be Lexus bias. Deal with it, get over it and move on. You're not going to convince or change the minds of those who favor the GS overall.
It's a Lexus forum love it or hate it, there is always going to be Lexus bias. Deal with it, get over it and move on. You're not going to convince or change the minds of those who favor the GS overall.
Now can we please stop beating this dead horse? B/C clearly, the public has spoken......
05-17-05, 05:55 PM
#39
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The 2nd pictures that Sick posted is from Japan and those guys love the VIP stlye( disc wheels). The 3GS from the second pic. look like the guy lowered the car and some exhausts. So, we got some aftermarket suspension and exhausts for the 3GS, right??.
Last edited by VVT-i; 05-17-05 at 05:59 PM.
05-17-05, 06:33 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by Xenthar
The first and second pics of the GS are really ugly. The others look nice though except for the fact that they desperately need to be dropped. Looks like a 4x4
05-17-05, 07:58 PM
#42
Originally Posted by VVT-i
That was my point. Look at the 2nd pic and you can see the guy got some dropped on the 3GS and you can tell by the gap between the tire and the fender well.
There still is not lowering suspension for the 3GS.
05-17-05, 09:16 PM
#43
Originally Posted by VVT-i
The 2nd pictures that Sick posted is from Japan and those guys love the VIP stlye( disc wheels). The 3GS from the second pic. look like the guy lowered the car and some exhausts. So, we got some aftermarket suspension and exhausts for the 3GS, right??.
Same car, same event (in SoCal).
05-17-05, 09:29 PM
#44
Originally Posted by Neo
Does this guy have different rims on either side?
Same car, same event (in SoCal).
Same car, same event (in SoCal).