Recommend me a car - RL vs GSh
06-05-05, 09:14 PM
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[QUOTE=UDel]
I disagree 100%. Horsepower is not what makes this class. Its about prestige and the overall package. People in this class don't magazine race, heck, and barely push their cars. More than anything, people want a brand they either aspire too and trust. Even those of us on car forums like this one, people RARELY race or drive their cars like the magazines do. Its a moot point.
The GS has some of the lowest HP ratings in class and is selling better than ever. The car is 5k more expensive than the old GS and is selling better than ever. Comparing 2GS 1st year to 3GS first year sales, the more expensive 3GS is going to beat it in sales the first year, 30k to 36k.
The Infiniti M35/45 has gotten rave reviews for sport. Its won the most comparos. It hasn't helped sales a bit. Sales are flat compared to March, before the comparisons were published. Most people in this class could care less.
The Avalon NEEDED the 3.5 because it wasn't heavily revised for awhile and doesn't have the brand that LEXUS does. Also, the 3.0 is a Japanese made engine only. The 3.5 will be used in multiple applications.
The RL already has a sportier version, the A-spec which adds I think 5k to the 50k price WITHOUT labor
Acura buyers are about value and there is no value there.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
The reason for us getting the 300 engine than the 350 engine and the 430 to 460 is b/c the USA is Lexus biggest market and instead of going 7 years with no updates in the GS 300 (engine) and 3 years (no hp bump) in the GS 4, is to keep sales consistent and people interested.
BMW just DID IT for the 5 series. The car has been out 2 years now, the 530 gets a new engine with 30 more HP but with NO CHANGE in displacement, its still a 530. Just like how the GS 300 05-06 jumped 25hp with no change in displacement. The E 320 after 3 years is now the E350. It keeps people interested. BMW and Benz always update their engines.
Lexus will now do the same to keep customers coming.
Japan gets the 350 only as Lexus in Japan is an even bigger deal there, than it is here.
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You could say the same about using the 245hp 3 liter in the Avalon and then having room to update the engine to 245+ and using a 3.5liter
The GS should have received the 3.5 in the first place because it is a more prestigeous car competing with more performance oriented cars. Since the IS is confirmed at 310hp then Lexus could raise the v-6 GS hp up 30hp to 310 in a few years. The 3 liter 245hp engine would be perfect for the Camry and Avalon since both are fwd and focus on comfort not sport and that is around what the competition in using. The larger more powerful 3.5 should have been used in the heavier sportier more expensive GS especially since it is available in awd in the first place in my opinion.
There is a rumor of the RL getting a sportier version with more hp and a few more options that are available in japan like rear view camera, night vision, AC seats, massaging seats, etc in the future but nothing is certain.
BMW just DID IT for the 5 series. The car has been out 2 years now, the 530 gets a new engine with 30 more HP but with NO CHANGE in displacement, its still a 530. Just like how the GS 300 05-06 jumped 25hp with no change in displacement. The E 320 after 3 years is now the E350. It keeps people interested. BMW and Benz always update their engines.
Lexus will now do the same to keep customers coming.
Japan gets the 350 only as Lexus in Japan is an even bigger deal there, than it is here.
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You could say the same about using the 245hp 3 liter in the Avalon and then having room to update the engine to 245+ and using a 3.5liter
The GS should have received the 3.5 in the first place because it is a more prestigeous car competing with more performance oriented cars. Since the IS is confirmed at 310hp then Lexus could raise the v-6 GS hp up 30hp to 310 in a few years. The 3 liter 245hp engine would be perfect for the Camry and Avalon since both are fwd and focus on comfort not sport and that is around what the competition in using. The larger more powerful 3.5 should have been used in the heavier sportier more expensive GS especially since it is available in awd in the first place in my opinion.
There is a rumor of the RL getting a sportier version with more hp and a few more options that are available in japan like rear view camera, night vision, AC seats, massaging seats, etc in the future but nothing is certain.
The GS has some of the lowest HP ratings in class and is selling better than ever. The car is 5k more expensive than the old GS and is selling better than ever. Comparing 2GS 1st year to 3GS first year sales, the more expensive 3GS is going to beat it in sales the first year, 30k to 36k.
The Infiniti M35/45 has gotten rave reviews for sport. Its won the most comparos. It hasn't helped sales a bit. Sales are flat compared to March, before the comparisons were published. Most people in this class could care less.
The Avalon NEEDED the 3.5 because it wasn't heavily revised for awhile and doesn't have the brand that LEXUS does. Also, the 3.0 is a Japanese made engine only. The 3.5 will be used in multiple applications.
The RL already has a sportier version, the A-spec which adds I think 5k to the 50k price WITHOUT labor
Acura buyers are about value and there is no value there.
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