...that the 450h was going to replace the 430 and they were just going to have 2 models. now we're talking about a 350,450h, and a 460? could that be right? im sure you guys know more than me though.

 

While no "official" announcement has been made (to the best of my knowledge), Lexus has already trademarked the names GS350, GS450h & GS460. The Hybrid model is not meant as a replacement for the V8 engine in the GS lineup. Lexus realizes the importance of offering a V8 engine in the luxury segment. While the 450h will offer serious performance, it's main appeal will most likely be fuel economy. As for the GS460, the new V8 should have an increase in displacement (from 4.3 liters to 4.6 liters) and the addition of Direct Injection which is already on the GS300 & IS250/350. I'd be suprised if the new V8 didn't actually improve its fuel economy ratings slightly over the current 4.3 liter in spite of the greater displacement and HP.

I just hope Lexus does something about the "ticking" noise common w/ both Lexus' "Direct Injection" and Audi's "FSI".

 

it's already been said that we will see gs460 next yr

 

Is that the engine ticking that you're talking about? I thought mine was the only one doing that. Is that a "fault" of Lexus' Direct Injection?

 

Mine sounds like mouse running on a metal wheel.I was going to have it looked at.

 

I guess it's just like that.

 

In the words of a great philosopher of our time, Eric Cartman, " Sweeeet".

 

Ha ha.
THanks ya'll I forgot about the 450h

So there will be a 3 GS lineup first 300/430/450h then 350/450h/460.

In 1998, when the 2GS debuted all new, the 4.0 engine added VVTi, which got peak hp up from 260 (in the SC/LS) to 300 in the GS (290 in the SC/LS).

In 2001 when the 3LS debuted with the new 4.3 liter, the GS got that engine as well, thus the 430 was born.

The same thing in 2007. The 4LS will debut with a 4.6 V-8, with direct injection and dual vvti (added to exhaust), and the GS will become the 460.

What has yet to be seen, the LS WILL OFFER a V-8 hybrid. Not sure if a V-8 GS hybrid will come too eventually.

 

The GS350 replaces the GS300, the GS460 replaces the GS430, and the GS450h replaces...um...your E55?

I hope Lexus keeps the GS300 in markets that base taxes on engine displacements though. Lexus needs to offer more smaller engine variants if they're serious about expanding outside the US.

 

GS350 woohoo, it's about time. It was embarrasing to have a GS slower than the Avalon.

 

Well, does anyone know when it will come to America?

 

No official word from Lexus (which is no suprise), but every automotive publication is pretty much in agreement that North America should see the GS350 & GS460 next Fall as a 2007 model. The GS450h is supposed to be out a bit sooner in the Spring/Summer of 2006 last time I heard.

 

It's a sound of 1,600 psi of fuel going to your engine. I mean 1,600 psi. The same sound when you use the pressure washer to clean you driveway.. This technology helps in fuel economy and increase HP and TQ at the same time. You can hear the same ticking noise from the deisel( directed injection also but different technology).

Back on topic. I wish Lexus keep the GS300 in the line up so you can get the GS300, GS350 with 306 hp, GS450h with over 330 hp or the GS460 that will top them all. Heck, may be one day the GS will get the 600h from the LS as welll...

 

Cool, thanks for the explanation, VVT-i. Damn, why couldn't the GS350 have come out earlier?

 

BMW and Benz just did it. They release the cars with engines, and when sales are stagnent or taper off in the mid year cycle, they put a new engine(s) in to bump sales.

GS sales are STRONG with the 300 and 430 and when they taper a bit, here come new engines to bump sales. Lexus is going against the Germans and now understands this concept