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GS460 no go, engine doesn't fit...

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Old 03-02-06, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyMPG
i wonder why the difference horse power in the gs450h and the most likely gs460 are so different from each other... ...one has 339hp and the other is supposed to have 380hp...i never understood the difference between x.2 litters...or in the case of the 460...x.1litter but why is the hp so different. Oh...and in regards to aftermarket stuff for hybrids...i have seen some and heard of some...but i think ppl will not deal with moding the electric motors because if they mess it up...there goes the car...heh ....i do remember that toyota or some toyota mechanics modded the electric motor on a prius to bring about a crazy amount of power...they said the torque was so strong that it was pushing the drivers into their seats like a porche 911 turbo...haha...dunno about that...but there are stuff in the works cuz hybrid cars may soon be a untapped market into bringing about the best that electric motors/batteries can offer.
err...... the gs450h is a 3.5L v6 plus a hybrid engine, it's not 4.5L...... they are just saying it's kinda "equivalent" to a 4.5L v8 engine.... and coz' of the electric motor, the performance of the car is probably very close (probably a tad slower) than the gs460 (with the spirit of this thread, if it exists).
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Old 03-02-06, 11:56 PM
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heh...thanks for the info...just thought it was odd due to the HP difference...even tho the engines are different...haha...oh well...maybe someone will mod a GS450h to make it crazy...lol...
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Old 03-03-06, 03:22 PM
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No V8 in the GS? Careful, Acura-bashers. Your time may be coming...

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BTW, anyone read in the latest R&T about the LF-A being called the GT450 or GT500? Have I been living under a rock, or is this new?
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Old 03-03-06, 05:05 PM
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No V8 in the GS? Careful, Acura-bashers. Your time may be coming...

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BTW, anyone read in the latest R&T about the LF-A being called the GT450 or GT500? Have I been living under a rock, or is this new?
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Even if they had no V-8, there is a hybrid and the GS will continue to sell, while the RL collects dust on lots, even with 8k discounts.
 
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Even if they had no V-8, there is a hybrid and the GS will continue to sell, while the RL collects dust on lots, even with 8k discounts.
Acura RL sales:

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Make	Model	Size		Class		Year	Month	Sales
						
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	1	489
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	2	488
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	3	451
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	4	496
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	5	467
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	6	448
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	7	310
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	8	242
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	9	144
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	10	1310
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	11	1941
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2004	12	1967
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	1	1371
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	2	1412
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	3	1376
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	4	1304
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	5	1404
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	6	1565
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	7	1741
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	8	1721
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	9	1552
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	10	1550
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	11	1298
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2005	12	1278
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2006	1	773
Acura	RL	Mid-size	Mid-size	2006	2	712
Very big dropoff in last two months...
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Default That was an illuminating history of the RL's sales numbers ..

Do you have similar lists of the E's and 5's in V8 configurations? Thanks Incendiary.

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Do you have similar lists of the E's and 5's in V8 configurations? Thanks Incendiary.

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Sorry, Rock. No breakdown of MB's E-class sales into V6 and V8 sales, so I never bothered collecting BMW's breakdowns either.
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Do you have similar lists of the E's and 5's in V8 configurations? Thanks Incendiary.

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Old 03-13-06, 02:28 AM
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Automotive News mentions the planned engine change...

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...NE&refsect=ANE
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Originally Posted by enigma354
Automotive News mentions the planned engine change...

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...NE&refsect=ANE
so the new gs 350 will go 0-60 in 5.6 whoa so what do you guys think the 460 will do i estimate 4.8-4.5......
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Old 03-13-06, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Shawnmack
so the new gs 350 will go 0-60 in 5.6 whoa so what do you guys think the 460 will do i estimate 4.8-4.5......
no way 4.5, that's too fast imho. maybe high 4 at best?
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Old 03-13-06, 09:17 AM
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There is a big power difference between the 350 and 460. Plus I believe the GS has a wieght advantage over most of its competitors as well(besides the 5-series). I'm thinking of a 5 sec flat run with 4.8sec at best.

I believe the new 550i's are around 5.2 sec or so....

EDIT: actually it does have a weight advantage....as little as a 100lbs to around 250+.

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Old 03-13-06, 09:54 AM
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That GS350 0-60 time is extrapolated from the IS350's. Given the extra weight and more lethargic transmission of the GS, something tells me that 5.6 is pretty optimistic. I'm thinking more like 5.8-5.9 for the GS350 and 5.2-5.4 for the GS460. I know that makes the GS460 collide with the GS450h from a stats perspective, but I'd be really surprised if a 4.6L V8 could get the GS under 5 seconds. Here's hoping, but realistically I doubt it...
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Old 03-13-06, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SCWells72
That GS350 0-60 time is extrapolated from the IS350's. Given the extra weight and more lethargic transmission of the GS, something tells me that 5.6 is pretty optimistic. I'm thinking more like 5.8-5.9 for the GS350 and 5.2-5.4 for the GS460. I know that makes the GS460 collide with the GS450h from a stats perspective, but I'd be really surprised if a 4.6L V8 could get the GS under 5 seconds. Here's hoping, but realistically I doubt it...
And exactly what is wrong with extrapolation in this case? If you have reasons to believe so, tell us why!

Otherwise, mechanically, the GS350 and the IS350 are very much identical cars with just different wheelbases and weights. There's nothing wrong with extrapolation here.
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
And exactly what is wrong with extrapolation in this case? If you have reasons to believe so, tell us why!

Otherwise, mechanically, the GS350 and the IS350 are very much identical cars with just different wheelbases and weights. There's nothing wrong with extrapolation here.
Calm down. I'm not trying to be overly negative. I'm just under the impression that the IS's transmission is quite a bit more responsive than the GS's (I've driven a 3rd-gen GS430, and the tranny was VERY sluggish compared to my 2nd-gen GS430 and the M45 Sport I test drove the same day), and you're not going to hit 60 in first gear.

Like I said, I could be wrong about both of my assertions, and I'd be happy if I were, but realistically I think those numbers are quite optimistic. I'd love to see a sub-5.0 factory GS. I guess we'll just have to wait until early next year and see...
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