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2007 GS350 is OUT now!!! Wow!

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Old 07-21-06, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bocatrip
Well what's the deal? Is it sluggush or not? Was that just one person's opinion?
Throttle rersponse is a very subjective measurement, so you'll likely have to judge for yourself. However, the 300 was quite slow off the block already, and I refuse to believe they would have intentionally slowed it even more.
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Old 07-21-06, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by VikingKing
Bottom line the car is not out yet at all. I had my friend check an allocation and the GS300 is still showing up so there is no way he even drove it!
I test drove the 450H several months before it was released, and the 300 also had early release demo models. There may be a few 350's floating around, so let's not call anyone a liar just yet.
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Old 07-21-06, 10:06 AM
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GS 300 owners you are okay - don't moan and groan about another GS with a bigger engine and next generation NAV. You are currently experiencing a great vehicle. Let market capitalism occur. Everything in life has its nuances - Bigger engine / more horse power could = less MPG and less $ in your bank account. New NAV (GEN 5) great feature, can't say nothing about that. When I puchased my GS 300 AWD w/ everything except ML, I did my due diligence and watched this board religiously. My findings were buy now and save later. I bought my GS for 46,100 including tax, dest and all that other stuff. My insurance went down $8 a month and I spend $42 to fill up my tank every two wks. I know, I couldn't have gotten the GS350 for $46K and less in insurance (more horsepower) and less $$ at the pump (bigger engine). So I made MY lifestyle choice.

Those who chose the GS350 - I admire you just like I do other GS 300 owners and support you.
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Old 07-21-06, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BLAQ ICE
GS 300 owners you are okay - don't moan and groan about another GS with a bigger engine and next generation NAV. You are currently experiencing a great vehicle. Let market capitalism occur. Everything in life has its nuances - Bigger engine / more horse power could = less MPG and less $ in your bank account. New NAV (GEN 5) great feature, can't say nothing about that. When I puchased my GS 300 AWD w/ everything except ML, I did my due diligence and watched this board religiously. My findings were buy now and save later. I bought my GS for 46,100 including tax, dest and all that other stuff. My insurance went down $8 a month and I spend $42 to fill up my tank every two wks. I know, I couldn't have gotten the GS350 for $46K and less in insurance (more horsepower) and less $$ at the pump (bigger engine). So I made MY lifestyle choice.

Those who chose the GS350 - I admire you just like I do other GS 300 owners and support
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I feel you on this. You are right. Just because the GS350 is out or soon to be, doesn't make the GS300 crap. Frankly since I now do 95% straight highway miles I don't need the extra horsepower and if the GS300 anf the GS350 was out at the same time and the 300 was 46k and 350 was 52K I would still probably take the 300. So for me the add'l HP and maybe even the better Nav isn't woth the extra 6K or so I would have to pay to get it. Now if they had changed the body style to something better............Hmmmm maybe then.

Oh, and I got my GS300 by trading in my C5 Vette and on the highway I still am not missing the HP. I do like the extra money in my pocket come fillup time !!!
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Old 07-21-06, 10:42 AM
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I'm glad to see Lexus adding more power to the V6 GS one year after the 2006 re-design. I only hope that they do the same for the V8 GS in the fall once the LS 460 comes out instead of waiting until next year to give us a new V8 in the GS. It really wouldn't make much sense to market a 300hp GS 350 along side a 300hp GS 430 that costs thousands more!

But then, that's just me...
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Old 07-21-06, 10:42 AM
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back to the camry point....even with more HP, the camry, es350 and GS300 get the same 0-60 time. The GS engine has direct injection that can't be beat by the es/camry/rx/rav4.

I've debated between 300 and 350 for many months. I want the fuel economy as I do lots of road trips, but I also love the kick of the IS350 and want to burn those lowly civics from a stop. I'll have to go drive the 350 when it really is here, but I agree the 300 is still a winner!
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Old 07-21-06, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ivanpetrov
back to the camry point....even with more HP, the camry, es350 and GS300 get the same 0-60 time. The GS engine has direct injection that can't be beat by the es/camry/rx/rav4.

I've debated between 300 and 350 for many months. I want the fuel economy as I do lots of road trips, but I also love the kick of the IS350 and want to burn those lowly civics from a stop. I'll have to go drive the 350 when it really is here, but I agree the 300 is still a winner!

Yo! Ivan in the Great Lakes state - go get that 350 and stomp those Hondas. The 300 would do the same.
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Old 07-21-06, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Nas
This is where I hate certain features about Lexus. Lexus may be a 'separate' company now, but there is no excuse for this car to have less power than a car that is 15-20k cheaper.
Understand your frustration, but you're just comparing HP. Once you add in all the luxury features of the GS (too many to list), it's not even a close comparison.
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Old 07-21-06, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ivanpetrov
back to the camry point....even with more HP, the camry, es350 and GS300 get the same 0-60 time. The GS engine has direct injection that can't be beat by the es/camry/rx/rav4.
The 2007 Camry V6 has been clocked at 6.1s (R&T). The fastest time for the 2006 GS300 RWD is 6.8s.
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Old 07-21-06, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSupe87
i love the number increases...LOL 300, 350, 400, 430, 446

nissan 200sx, 240sx, 300zx, 350z

bmw - every car they make

Come on you automotive jerks, lets get more creative with the names! They spend hours on designing, over engineering, and they can't even think of anything better than an increasing number.
Good observation, I am with you on this topic. Audi (S-Line, RS) and BMW (M) have done it, why can't Lexus. I did read on this forum that the IS500 was going to be called the IS-F. So maybe (F) is their monicker. I wished they would have come up with some fancy for their AWD editions, like Audi has quattro and BMW has X. Maybe Lexus could be GS 300p for powerful wheel deployment.
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Old 07-21-06, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Valet Park
Can someone explain where the $15k difference comes in?
The Camry has a massive design flaw where the power is being
channeled to the wrong wheels.
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Old 07-21-06, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by marshmallo
The Camry has a massive design flaw where the power is being
channeled to the wrong wheels.
Well, if it wasn't for this design flaw, everyone would be driving a camry (well, not like everyone is NOT driving one already..america's #1 selling car for how many yrs??)
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Old 07-21-06, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by INHOCJP
It sucks, but that's why you have to do your due diligence. This forum is a great resource for information. The rumors of the GS350/460 have been around for over a year. When I got my GS430 in May of '05, I had heard the GS460 was coming w/in the next couple of years. That's why I decided to lease my 430.
That is very true. The GS350 had been floating on the forums since before the release of the 3GS. It was a done deal that the JDM GS will have a 350, so it is only natural that the GS here will move up as well.

I'm happy that Lexus is finally winning this horsepower war. The GS350 will complete destroy the 530i with nearly 50 more hp, and be almost as fast as the 550i, even with a 57 hp and 2-cylinder disadvantage. The IS350 is also making the 335i playing catch-up. This is great.

Lexus understands that although everyone is praising BMW handling, 95% of drivers on the road today will utilize acceleration over handling. No point in having the ultimate handling when your opponent is 5 cars ahead of you.
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Old 07-21-06, 02:56 PM
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I have to object a bit to the statement that the GS350 is out since i have a 1000 dollars deposite at the largest Lexus dealership in the midwest at Southfield Michigan, and they said that the GS350 will not arrive till late August/September. Now, I have bought 4 Lexus from this dealer and I know the sales manager very well, so I take his word. I called another Michigan Lexus Dealer and they said that it will not come till late August/October and they dont have any specific date or info. What gives..
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Old 07-21-06, 04:46 PM
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Handling is very important. It not only adds "fun" to driving, it adds safety. I don't wish it on anybody, but once in a while, we all run into those "oh *****" moments. The car's ability to follow your command could be difference between "pheeeew..." versus "woo woo" (ambulance ... sorry )
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