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this is especially true for people with larger wheels
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I looked around several websites (ie Brembo, Wilwood, Rotora, Endless, Stoptech, AP Racing and Project Mu) but I didn't see any offering a BBK for the '06 GS300 on their application guides.
#11
There seems to be a lot of misconceptions about brakes in general. The reality is, a big brake kit may or may not provide better stopping distances depending on the situation. If we are taking about the typical, non-aggressive driving that most people do 95% of the time, the stock brakes are more than capable of locking up the wheels (assuming ABS is taken out of the equation) so having more "power" isn't really going to decrease stopping distances.
The thing that really improves stopping distances moreso than the BBK is wider, stickier tires.
That said, the BIG advantage of a BBK is it's ability to dissipate heat better (more surface area = more heat transfer) and thus provide more consistent braking performance without brake fade during extended braking.
This advantage is typically why people who track their cars upgrade their brakes as they find that most stock brakes begin to fade even after a couple of hot laps around a track.
In the real world, this is useful too in situations where you are coming down a mountain and using your brakes a lot or if you are slowing from very high speeds.
If your driving doesn't typically see these types of situations, then a BBK's main advantage is basically the really sporty look as it may not give better braking performance than regular brakes even in a typical panic stop situation.
The thing that really improves stopping distances moreso than the BBK is wider, stickier tires.
That said, the BIG advantage of a BBK is it's ability to dissipate heat better (more surface area = more heat transfer) and thus provide more consistent braking performance without brake fade during extended braking.
This advantage is typically why people who track their cars upgrade their brakes as they find that most stock brakes begin to fade even after a couple of hot laps around a track.
In the real world, this is useful too in situations where you are coming down a mountain and using your brakes a lot or if you are slowing from very high speeds.
If your driving doesn't typically see these types of situations, then a BBK's main advantage is basically the really sporty look as it may not give better braking performance than regular brakes even in a typical panic stop situation.
#12
It's not about auto-x; it's about the GS300 having small, underpowered brakes for a car its size and weight, and as rominl mentioned, peace of mind knowing that you can stop faster in case of an emergency.
I looked around several websites (ie Brembo, Wilwood, Rotora, Endless, Stoptech, AP Racing and Project Mu) but I didn't see any offering a BBK for the '06 GS300 on their application guides.
I looked around several websites (ie Brembo, Wilwood, Rotora, Endless, Stoptech, AP Racing and Project Mu) but I didn't see any offering a BBK for the '06 GS300 on their application guides.
and also, since day one the cars came out, i already questioned whether the gs430 brakes have the same bracket as the gs300 ones. if so, then you get very easy and simple brakes upgrade i suppose
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Project Mu / Endless / Brembo
Endless:
6-Pot Front Description
-Caliper Dimension: 278.5 x 157 x 79 (mm)
-Piston Diameter: 27 / 32 / 38 (mm)
-Caliper Weight: 7.32 lbs.
-Disc Rotor Size: 355mm (13.98") x 32mm (2-Piece Floating)
-MSRP: $3,680.00
4-Pot Rear Description
-Caliper Dimension: 266 x 141 x 73.2
-Piston Diameter: 27 / 32 (mm)
-Caliper Weight: 4.71 lbs.
-Disc Rotor Size: 332mm (13.07") x 30mm (2-Piece Floating)
-MSRP: $3,680.00
Caliper and Rotor Bell Housing available in Alumite Blue.
Alumite is a special finish that helps the caliper body from discoloraing at high temperatures as opposed to normal paint, thus the Alumite finishes are recommended.
Caliper Colors available in:
-Alumite Blue (Endless' signature color) - shown above
-Alumite Silver
-Alumite Black
-Custom Non-Alumite Colors
Samples of Endless Alumite colors: (Alumite Red and Alumite Gold no longer available)
==================================================
Project Mu:
A) Front Forged Kit (4-pot) - MSRP: $2,800.00
-4 Piston Caliper (Forged Mold - Stamped)
-4 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green, Silver, or Gunmetal
-345mm (13.59") or 355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
B) Front Racing Calipers (4-pot) - MSRP: $3,850.00
-4 Piston Caliper (Billet Forged - Shaved)
-4 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green Only
-345mm (13.59") or 355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
C) Front Racing Calipers (6-pot) - MSRP: $4,800.00
-6 Piston Caliper (Billet Forged - Shaved)
-2 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green Only
-355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
==================================================
Brembo:
Brembo currently has not released the production pieces for the 06-up GS Series as of yet. They require 3 kits to build "special orders" or 6 kits to finalize full-production pieces. I've been speaking to them concerning applications. Here are some options:
A) -355mm (13.98") (Cross Drilled or Slotted Avail)
-If Production - MSRP: $3,295.00
-If not Production - MSRP: $3,875.00
-4 Piston Cast Caliper
-Std. Colors: Red, Black, or Silver
-Custom Colors Available at $375.00/axle
-2 Pads/Caliper
B) -380mm (14.96") (Cross Drilled or Slotted Avail)
-Brembo Will determine 4, 6, or 8 Pistons required
-If Production - Approx MSRP: up to $4,295.00
-If not Production - Approx MSRP: up to $4,995.00
Brembo Assorted Colors:
Brembo Silver 8-Piston (Drilled)
Brembo Red 4-Piston (Drilled)
New Brembo 6-Piston (Slotted)
==================================================
EDIT: More info will be added..... (gotta give me time to get all the info...)
6-Pot Front Description
-Caliper Dimension: 278.5 x 157 x 79 (mm)
-Piston Diameter: 27 / 32 / 38 (mm)
-Caliper Weight: 7.32 lbs.
-Disc Rotor Size: 355mm (13.98") x 32mm (2-Piece Floating)
-MSRP: $3,680.00
4-Pot Rear Description
-Caliper Dimension: 266 x 141 x 73.2
-Piston Diameter: 27 / 32 (mm)
-Caliper Weight: 4.71 lbs.
-Disc Rotor Size: 332mm (13.07") x 30mm (2-Piece Floating)
-MSRP: $3,680.00
Caliper and Rotor Bell Housing available in Alumite Blue.
Alumite is a special finish that helps the caliper body from discoloraing at high temperatures as opposed to normal paint, thus the Alumite finishes are recommended.
Caliper Colors available in:
-Alumite Blue (Endless' signature color) - shown above
-Alumite Silver
-Alumite Black
-Custom Non-Alumite Colors
Samples of Endless Alumite colors: (Alumite Red and Alumite Gold no longer available)
==================================================
Project Mu:
A) Front Forged Kit (4-pot) - MSRP: $2,800.00
-4 Piston Caliper (Forged Mold - Stamped)
-4 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green, Silver, or Gunmetal
-345mm (13.59") or 355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
B) Front Racing Calipers (4-pot) - MSRP: $3,850.00
-4 Piston Caliper (Billet Forged - Shaved)
-4 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green Only
-345mm (13.59") or 355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
C) Front Racing Calipers (6-pot) - MSRP: $4,800.00
-6 Piston Caliper (Billet Forged - Shaved)
-2 Pads/Caliper
-Caliper avail in P-Mu Green Only
-355mm (13.98") Slotted Rotor
-60 days to order
==================================================
Brembo:
Brembo currently has not released the production pieces for the 06-up GS Series as of yet. They require 3 kits to build "special orders" or 6 kits to finalize full-production pieces. I've been speaking to them concerning applications. Here are some options:
A) -355mm (13.98") (Cross Drilled or Slotted Avail)
-If Production - MSRP: $3,295.00
-If not Production - MSRP: $3,875.00
-4 Piston Cast Caliper
-Std. Colors: Red, Black, or Silver
-Custom Colors Available at $375.00/axle
-2 Pads/Caliper
B) -380mm (14.96") (Cross Drilled or Slotted Avail)
-Brembo Will determine 4, 6, or 8 Pistons required
-If Production - Approx MSRP: up to $4,295.00
-If not Production - Approx MSRP: up to $4,995.00
Brembo Assorted Colors:
Brembo Silver 8-Piston (Drilled)
Brembo Red 4-Piston (Drilled)
New Brembo 6-Piston (Slotted)
==================================================
EDIT: More info will be added..... (gotta give me time to get all the info...)
Last edited by Eternity3G; 10-12-06 at 11:55 AM.