Not so Impressed with the GS
05-14-07, 11:16 AM
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One of Houston200's points is somethng others have pointed out--the lack of an aux input jack for his iPod. To that I would say an aux jack is obviously better than none, plug and play, but it's nowhere near as nice as having fuller integration with onscreen playlist/title info. The Vaistech SLI adapter many of us have added improves the quality of the iPod integration to a level rarely, if ever, supported at the OEM level. And it offers not just an input for iPod, but AUX as well if so desired.
To me, this raises the attractiveness of the ML system since it is so easily transformed. Other head units with an aux jack cannot so easily be upgraded to have an iTunes display, or to control the iPod automatically.
Main issue = moot.
To me, this raises the attractiveness of the ML system since it is so easily transformed. Other head units with an aux jack cannot so easily be upgraded to have an iTunes display, or to control the iPod automatically.
Main issue = moot.
05-14-07, 12:50 PM
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I didn't consider "winning us over" as a criteria for a new board member to feel welcomed here. Like e-mail, the written word is not always an accurate representation of his/her real intentions.
None-the-less, it seems to me we should not expect to be won-over in any regard. To the contrary, I think it's more important to make new members feel welcomed, regardless of how they express themselves.
None-the-less, it seems to me we should not expect to be won-over in any regard. To the contrary, I think it's more important to make new members feel welcomed, regardless of how they express themselves.
I agree 100% with a "but"...
This is "CLUB" Lexus. To me that means a group of people with like interests that enjoy discusssing similar topics, in our case it is Lexus Cars and in my case, it is the GS. There is a first impression that is made on both sides with regards to new members and typically that impression will dictate the users experience here.
Im guilty myself of sometimes being too blunt to a fault as well but for some reason this post got me fired up. Hopefully there is a rational reason behind the tone of the post (english as a second language, etc.), but for a long time lexus ES owner whos first post is bashing the GS I have trouble believing the true intentions were for feedback.
I still dont know why it was posted other than to fire people up...
05-14-07, 02:47 PM
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Not sure there is a big overlap in the demographics of ES vs GS perspective buyers. The OP owns a previous generation ES and values the trunk space and backseat space that come with the ES. Those are not what I would consider as one of the top desired features when considering the GS. Personally, performance and handling lead me to the GS over the ES. I also liked the GS looks better than the ES. Sounds like the OP really wants a ES350.
As for AUX input, isn't that what the nice cassette deck is for? Dealers just need to include the cassette adapter!
As for AUX input, isn't that what the nice cassette deck is for? Dealers just need to include the cassette adapter!
05-14-07, 04:02 PM
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As an observation about the ES/GS. I just came from two 07 ES350 UL’s over a 8 months period and both of them had the trans issue, so I would say it’s a carp shoot on the ES. That why I’m here now with the GS350 it was the best alterative at this time. I love my GS and plan to keep it 7-10 years and yes the items listed are there, so that's a personal preference thing. As a word of caution re-think the ES till next year, buybacks are no fun.
05-14-07, 04:37 PM
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05-14-07, 05:17 PM
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As an observation about the ES/GS. I just came from two 07 ES350 UL’s over a 8 months period and both of them had the trans issue, so I would say it’s a carp shoot on the ES. That why I’m here now with the GS350 it was the best alterative at this time. I love my GS and plan to keep it 7-10 years and yes the items listed are there, so that's a personal preference thing. As a word of caution re-think the ES till next year, buybacks are no fun.
BTW, AUX input is just an audio input and nothing else. You will not be able to control your iPod or any other mp3 player. What would be cool is to have CF/SD card input like they have it in G35.
05-14-07, 07:52 PM
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Bottom line GS and ES are totally different cars. If your priority is cushy ride and space efficiency then the FWD ES is the choice. If you value sportiness that a RWD can offer, then GS is the one. To me, having all the latest and greatest luxury items are not my top priority. Besides, the GS chasis is much sportier and more solid. The GS and ES appeal to different demographic, that's why they both exist in the Lexus lineup.
Lexus is smart, unlike MB, BMW, or Audi, they know that in U.S. there is a market for pure luxury moderately priced sedan. Therefore, they sell the ES. The GS is designed to directly compete with the German luxury sport sedans. Comparing GS with ES is like comparing apples to oranges.
Lexus is smart, unlike MB, BMW, or Audi, they know that in U.S. there is a market for pure luxury moderately priced sedan. Therefore, they sell the ES. The GS is designed to directly compete with the German luxury sport sedans. Comparing GS with ES is like comparing apples to oranges.
05-14-07, 09:55 PM
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*shrug* sometimes i wonder why i bought the GS....at first it's great, then slowly little stuff start to **** me off...
clearly the current one is not of the better ones lexus has designed...
clearly the current one is not of the better ones lexus has designed...
05-14-07, 11:37 PM
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I didn't consider "winning us over" as a criteria for a new board member to feel welcomed here. Like e-mail, the written word is not always an accurate representation of his/her real intentions.
None-the-less, it seems to me we should not expect to be won-over in any regard. To the contrary, I think it's more important to make new members feel welcomed, regardless of how they express themselves.
None-the-less, it seems to me we should not expect to be won-over in any regard. To the contrary, I think it's more important to make new members feel welcomed, regardless of how they express themselves.