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Old 06-16-07, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Yang1815
Wow, I'd want to watch a documentary on this if there were one.
There was a documentary from what I understand on the way Europe car hacker do it about 1 1/2 years ago - 06. Actually they talked about the way they do it is by sitting in a coffee shop with a lap top waiting for a someone with a high end car to arrive with a rolling code Fob, I believe our Fob’s are rolling code also. They would sit near the person that has the key (Fob) on them and run a program that would trigger a response from the Fob, once they have the response they break the code. From there they can open up the car and so on. I didn’t see the documentary myself but the talk about the way they do it was circulating through the forums back then. More like hear-say. So I think if a pro wants your car they’ll get it. Other wise for the average Joe car stealer I think the OEM system is good enough to block them.
Old 06-16-07, 01:03 PM
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the problem is that most people don't bother to call the cops when they hear an alarm.

if someone brought a tow truck, bystanders would probably think that the car is getting repo'd.
Old 06-16-07, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by osokuko
They would sit near the person that has the key (Fob) on them and run a program that would trigger a response from the Fob, once they have the response they break the code.
Doesn't this mean they have to be really close to the person with the keyfob though?

Originally Posted by dunnojack
the problem is that most people don't bother to call the cops when they hear an alarm.

if someone brought a tow truck, bystanders would probably think that the car is getting repo'd.
This is true.
Old 06-16-07, 02:42 PM
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Yang1815 - Yes you are correct, that same question was brought up before in the forums and the answer was they work in a pair one of them enters in to a conversation with the person keeping him busy while the other runs the program close by. Coffee shops in Europe are tighter or smaller in size than here and often are packed with people on lap tops. When I was in Europe I noticed everything for the locals from hotel rooms to cafes are smaller and more compact, unless it’s an American tourist place which are larger in size. While in Germany we stayed at a local hotel, the rooms were smaller than a regular room you would find on a Carnival cruise ship.

But remember this documentary was about the European car hackers. Not sure how they do it here though.
Old 06-16-07, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUFlasher
IMHO the factory system and keyless start are ample security enough to prevent the car from being stolen. However, nothing is 100% (including aftermarket systems).

A good thief will get through anything, a bad one won't even try. Many of the alarms that go off due to noise or vibration have a lot 'false alarms' that owners start to turn off without really checking the car out and passers by just ignore because so many false alarms. If a factory alarm goes off, then you 'know' something is really going on (passers by will likely still ignore).

If you want extra protection against the car being stolen, I would suggest lo-jack. This will help the recovery of the car not prevention from being stolen. I also saw a special on television a few years back that suggested NOT to put any stickers on the car alerting thieves of what secutiy system you have. It just makes it easier for them to plan what to do to break in. Not as suffisticated thieves won't mess with a keyless start etc. system in the first place.
+2. 'nough said.
Old 06-16-07, 07:22 PM
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So basically, an additional security system will just be kind of over kill, huh
Old 06-16-07, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cabaret
So basically, an additional security system will just be kind of over kill, huh
Essentially, and would compromise the factory convenience.
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