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Old 08-29-07, 11:34 AM
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2012 Lexus GS-F: Toyota to build a V-10-powered M5-fighter


By Todd Lassa
Art By Damon Moran
Take the 500-plus-horsepower, Formula 1-inspired sub-5.0-liter V-10 slated for the 2010 Lexus LF-A supercar, drop it in the body of the all-new 2011 GS sedan, and what've you got? The 2012 Lexus GS-F. Watch out, BMW M5, Audi RS6, Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, and 2009 Cadillac CTS-v!



Details are sketchy, but engineers are said to be protecting the next-generation GS to be able to package the supercar's V-10. The GS-F apparently hasn't been approved for production. It would be a good idea, though, and not just for enthusiasts. It would cut engine costs through higher volume than by building it just for the exclusive supercar.

This also is official (kind of) notice that a V-10 has emerged as the engine Lexus will use in its supercar. Lexus hasn't announced the engine, or even made the supercar official, but Toyota was said to be considering either the V-10 or a twin-turbo version of the LS sedan's V-8. The new V-10 was to be Toyota Formula 1-based, but that series now uses a V-8, and the street engine has been developed with diminished connection to the racing engine.

The GS-F, if approved, would hit the streets about a year after an all-new GS scheduled for the 2011 model year. Expect visual mods similar to those of the forthcoming V-8-powered IS-F. Transmission is likely to be the eight-speed automatic from the LS 460, modified to allow full manual mode via paddles and ultrafast shifts.
Old 08-29-07, 12:30 PM
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Nice, although that means bypassing this generation. Probably waiting to see how the IS-F does first.
Old 08-29-07, 12:57 PM
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I think by that time, amg benz and other vehicles that they are planning on competing against..m5...

will have also upgraded...I think right now should have been a good time to release this model..It would have made a tremendous impact!
Old 08-29-07, 01:08 PM
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By 2012, it's possible. Lexus has plenty of time to grow. By then, that V10 will be "five year old" technology...
Old 08-29-07, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT
By 2012, it's possible. Lexus has plenty of time to grow. By then, that V10 will be "five year old" technology...
by 2012 cars will fly
Old 08-29-07, 01:18 PM
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They will need about 600hp for the GS-F if they want to have the car out by 2012.
Old 08-29-07, 01:40 PM
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I'd take the TT V8 over the V10.
Old 08-29-07, 02:29 PM
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I just wish Lexus would produce a performance oriented sedan that OTHER manufacturers would aim to beat vs the other way around...
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Look at how long it took for the IS-F. The IS430 concept came out back in what, 2003? It wasn't even done by Lexus but I think they helped out and looked at the public reaction.

They need to make an LS-F
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Originally Posted by AlBoston
Look at how long it took for the IS-F. The IS430 concept came out back in what, 2003? It wasn't even done by Lexus but I think they helped out and looked at the public reaction.

They need to make an LS-F
I agree 100%
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Old 08-29-07, 05:02 PM
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Oh I am really excited about this. It will probably have a whopping
380HP
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^With Lexus being so conservative about the GS right now, it may have even less

That's if they make one. I would say no, given that the GS isn't a priority right now.
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Man this is going to priced at 80k or more.. The M5 starts at 90k.. How many are going to wait till 2012 for this?
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Originally Posted by tmf2004
Man this is going to priced at 80k or more.. The M5 starts at 90k.. How many are going to wait till 2012 for this?
Anyone that would've bought an E60 M5 in the first place or a W211 E63? No one.

In five years, that'll probably be time for a restyle / refresh.
Old 08-29-07, 05:48 PM
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I'm in the skeptics camp on the F division in general. Lexus talks a good game, but its all a matter of the business case to them. They will never try to compete for the high end performance customer and really go head to head with AMG or the M Division. They know the $$ sweet spot in the market will always be just below the top end performance cars.


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