flipside909

Believe it or not, clearcoat is not really a requirement on solid color paint finishes. Toyota/Lexus has many paint finishes that are not clear coated. The solid colors they have in their pallete are of only single stage. I'm not sure how to prove it to you. Perhaps we have a Obsidian 212 volunteer daring enough to take a piece of sand paper and test it out.

There was a single stage paint discussion not too long ago here:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=314089

rominl

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no, i am not using zaino stuff on obsidian. that's far from the best stuff for dark colors

The Godfather

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After further research, I now believe it. Crazy!

speed28

so what do you use on black. I spoke to Sal and he said Z2 is perfect for Obsidian and no need to go to Z3.

rominl

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z2 is for clear coat finish, if there is no clear i believe z3 should be the one you use

zaino imho is a great balanced product, durable, shiny on most finish. however, they are not the shiniest i have seen, especially on dark colors they are definitely not the best. a lot of carnuba (sp?) wax are far better. on both my ls460l and gs350 i use klasse sealant (awesome stuff) and then carnuba wax

AlBoston

buffed a black onyx IS300 before and my pad turned black. It did only do this when i used a wool pad and compound. Nothing got on the pad when I was using a polishing pad with klasse aio.