SRGS300

i couldnt have said it better myself

doug_999

Actually I think that many of the new GM products are above average and as pointed out, some of the new Toyota products are just average if that (take a gander at the new Sequoia's interior).

The G Man

Like I said, just recently did GM start to improve, thats because they had to, they been losing their pants for years. About 10 years ago, GM new CEO made a commitment to improve the interior quality of all GM vehicles. Before that, their interior were some of the worst in the market. GM have a few cars and trucks thats above average now, but most of the Toyota and Lexus lineup is above average.

vandit23

Hyundai.....FTW!!!

It makes me wonder why Hyundai can produce cars that are comparable in every aspect to more established makers, but at a fraction of the price...Why is Lexus so friggin expensive while their cars have gotten worse over time. I may be bitter because my $50K+ GS turned out to be a rattle box, but I expect a car of that price to be better made, and hope that that is what I am paying for. This is quite possibly my first and last Lexus I buy.
The Genesis is what I am going to be my next car for everyday use. Now that I have had my "Lexus" experience, I can say that it really doesn't differ all that much from any other car experience.

This is just my $.02 and a bit of a rant...

rominl

iTrader: (4)

couple of comments. first of all, on paper i think the genesis looks pretty strong, can't wait to see it in person. but

1) you look at a car on paper and drawing conclusions already? that sounds a bit too early, isn't it?
2) expensive? want to price a similarly loaded e350 or 535? price is relative, when lexus came out people asked how come lexus can build a car this good and being much less as well.

hyundai is trying to enter the market, they price the car lower for less margin is understandable. we will see if they can succeed. but that's a very good start

The G Man

First of all, no one knows if the Genesis will be as much a rattle box as the the GS or even worst. My last BMW which was a 3 series 10 years ago was a much worst rattle box than my current Lexus GS. What the big difference for me was that the Lexus dealer is willing to try to fix the problem with a smile, while the BMW dealer just look at me like I have 2 heads and make comments like " its a car, it suppose to have rattles after a while"
Hyundai may be able to make a car that has the same features as a Lexus at a lower price on paper, believe me when I say, its not the same car quality wise.
I remember a while ago when Hyundai introduced the new Sonata. The Commerial said it has as much interior space as the BMW 7 series and when equiped with the same options, its half the price of a BMW 7 series. Does any one on this forum really believe a Hyundai is comparable to a BMW 7 series.
BMWs and Lexus have become the benchmark for manufacturers such as Hyundai to follow. That is saying something for Lexus when other auto manufacturers are aiming be to just like them.
Remember, it is a lot easier to follow than to lead.

kyang91

iTrader: (5)

I think this is a Pepple Beach edition, I think those rims looks pretty good like the one that are on the new BMW X5