2009 Lexus announced - one model so far
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I dont think its fair to compare Hyundai of today to Toyota in the 60s When Toyota was trying to break into the US market in the 1960s. Toyota had a much tougher time trying to break into the US market because it was right at the end of the Vietnam war era, there was still a lot of anti Asian sentiments in the US. Toyota didn’t make a mark until the oil crisis of the 70s, even then, the US government try to stop their advance in the US market share. GM and Ford did not know how to make a fuel efficient car, so that left the market wide open for the Japanese imports.
Hyundai is entering into a much different US market today. One where global economy is accepted. Hyundai is entering into a US market where buyers already have a good perception of Asian imported cars, thanks to Toyota. In a way, you can say that Hyundai is benefiting from the struggle Toyota had when they try to break into the US market in the 60s.
Hyundai is entering into a much different US market today. One where global economy is accepted. Hyundai is entering into a US market where buyers already have a good perception of Asian imported cars, thanks to Toyota. In a way, you can say that Hyundai is benefiting from the struggle Toyota had when they try to break into the US market in the 60s.
i couldnt have said it better myself
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Well, when GM was pushing out junks in the 90s and counting on Americans to buy their product because it’s the patriotic thing to do, they had nothing to worry about. Now that their back is against the wall, how many Billions did GM lost last year, they are now just starting to put some average products on the market. GM have a few new cars out there that are pretty good, but the rest of the lineup need alot of work. Toyota's CEO said some years ago, it is not their intention to aim for #1 in the world, it is not good public relation as far as the US market is concerned. Unfortunately, GM dug themself in such a big hole that Toyota just keep move forward and by next year, they should pass GM.
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Like I said, just recently did GM start to improve, thats because they had to, they been losing their pants for years. About 10 years ago, GM new CEO made a commitment to improve the interior quality of all GM vehicles. Before that, their interior were some of the worst in the market. GM have a few cars and trucks thats above average now, but most of the Toyota and Lexus lineup is above average.
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Hyundai.....FTW!!!
It makes me wonder why Hyundai can produce cars that are comparable in every aspect to more established makers, but at a fraction of the price...Why is Lexus so friggin expensive while their cars have gotten worse over time. I may be bitter because my $50K+ GS turned out to be a rattle box, but I expect a car of that price to be better made, and hope that that is what I am paying for. This is quite possibly my first and last Lexus I buy.
The Genesis is what I am going to be my next car for everyday use. Now that I have had my "Lexus" experience, I can say that it really doesn't differ all that much from any other car experience.
This is just my $.02 and a bit of a rant...
It makes me wonder why Hyundai can produce cars that are comparable in every aspect to more established makers, but at a fraction of the price...Why is Lexus so friggin expensive while their cars have gotten worse over time. I may be bitter because my $50K+ GS turned out to be a rattle box, but I expect a car of that price to be better made, and hope that that is what I am paying for. This is quite possibly my first and last Lexus I buy.
The Genesis is what I am going to be my next car for everyday use. Now that I have had my "Lexus" experience, I can say that it really doesn't differ all that much from any other car experience.
This is just my $.02 and a bit of a rant...
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Hyundai.....FTW!!!
It makes me wonder why Hyundai can produce cars that are comparable in every aspect to more established makers, but at a fraction of the price...Why is Lexus so friggin expensive while their cars have gotten worse over time. I may be bitter because my $50K+ GS turned out to be a rattle box, but I expect a car of that price to be better made, and hope that that is what I am paying for. This is quite possibly my first and last Lexus I buy.
The Genesis is what I am going to be my next car for everyday use. Now that I have had my "Lexus" experience, I can say that it really doesn't differ all that much from any other car experience.
This is just my $.02 and a bit of a rant...
It makes me wonder why Hyundai can produce cars that are comparable in every aspect to more established makers, but at a fraction of the price...Why is Lexus so friggin expensive while their cars have gotten worse over time. I may be bitter because my $50K+ GS turned out to be a rattle box, but I expect a car of that price to be better made, and hope that that is what I am paying for. This is quite possibly my first and last Lexus I buy.
The Genesis is what I am going to be my next car for everyday use. Now that I have had my "Lexus" experience, I can say that it really doesn't differ all that much from any other car experience.
This is just my $.02 and a bit of a rant...
1) you look at a car on paper and drawing conclusions already? that sounds a bit too early, isn't it?
2) expensive? want to price a similarly loaded e350 or 535? price is relative, when lexus came out people asked how come lexus can build a car this good and being much less as well.
hyundai is trying to enter the market, they price the car lower for less margin is understandable. we will see if they can succeed. but that's a very good start
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Hyundai.....FTW!!!
It makes me wonder why Hyundai can produce cars that are comparable in every aspect to more established makers, but at a fraction of the price...Why is Lexus so friggin expensive while their cars have gotten worse over time. I may be bitter because my $50K+ GS turned out to be a rattle box, but I expect a car of that price to be better made, and hope that that is what I am paying for. This is quite possibly my first and last Lexus I buy.
The Genesis is what I am going to be my next car for everyday use. Now that I have had my "Lexus" experience, I can say that it really doesn't differ all that much from any other car experience.
This is just my $.02 and a bit of a rant...
It makes me wonder why Hyundai can produce cars that are comparable in every aspect to more established makers, but at a fraction of the price...Why is Lexus so friggin expensive while their cars have gotten worse over time. I may be bitter because my $50K+ GS turned out to be a rattle box, but I expect a car of that price to be better made, and hope that that is what I am paying for. This is quite possibly my first and last Lexus I buy.
The Genesis is what I am going to be my next car for everyday use. Now that I have had my "Lexus" experience, I can say that it really doesn't differ all that much from any other car experience.
This is just my $.02 and a bit of a rant...
Hyundai may be able to make a car that has the same features as a Lexus at a lower price on paper, believe me when I say, its not the same car quality wise.
I remember a while ago when Hyundai introduced the new Sonata. The Commerial said it has as much interior space as the BMW 7 series and when equiped with the same options, its half the price of a BMW 7 series. Does any one on this forum really believe a Hyundai is comparable to a BMW 7 series.
BMWs and Lexus have become the benchmark for manufacturers such as Hyundai to follow. That is saying something for Lexus when other auto manufacturers are aiming be to just like them.
Remember, it is a lot easier to follow than to lead.
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