After seeing all these cars, you guys still think the GS's design is not dated

 

Nope...nada....not happening.....no way!

 

even if they make a real coupe, that will be rival with the 6 series. CL is s class base, it's much larger than the gs chassis.

the current gs is small imho but it's nothing like a four door coupe like the cls or other cars mentioned here. the lines are still too much like full scale sedan.

 

I actually think they should correct the headroom problem of the 3GS when they design the 4GS, & make the profile of the roof less coupe like for better rear headroom.
I do support the idea to make a seperate GS-based 2-door coupe though.

 

How about the front headroom, they need to work on that too. I dont get it, other sedans with similar height dimension have more headroom, where did all the headroom go in the GS? Maybe the floor boards are too high?

 

you guys are sitting with the seat on maximum height or what?

I am like 6"1 ish with hair, and i still have plenty of room on top

I have absolutely no problem with the headroom front or back.

 

The GS has tall sides and short a top...sort of like a chopped roof. Doing a coupe-like effect on a sedan seems to cause reduced headroom all around. The CLS looks the same way. If it didn't have the tall slab-sided body, there would be plenty of headroom.

 

that's a question we all ask.

 

My seat height is set to about the middle and I have have no hair on top

 

another reason why CLS style car is amazing

 

that passat looks so long, yet there's no leg room inside.

another case of "wtf did the space go??"

 

I think I saw one of those in the streets the other day with manufacturing plates. Looks real nice in person.

 

bmw handling is overrated. what you have experienced is the steering.

 

I think the 3GS is already a bit of a 4-door coupe with the way the roofline goes. The 4GS should make it go a bit further with better performance and handling.

I've driven my friend's 2GS400 and it is way better in performance & feel to the 3GS. I've always had BMWs (and I still do) and I felt the 3GS to be a bit too soft, that its softness does not go well with its swoopy styling. Everyone who commented on my 3GS think it looks very sporty, but driving it feels more like an LS. I had a previous generation ES330 and I felt that car to be much firmer and sportier in its handling despite that being front-wheel driven.

So, there you have my opinion. The 4GS should lean towards more 4-door coupe styling with firmer suspension and feel to go with the styling. That should make it more different than the rest of the Lexus line.

 

I totally agree with this. This is what is happening in my area. Non-enthusiast buyers don't care about rear-wheel drive. The ES totally meets their criteria at a lower price point and they still get the "L" badge with similar interior space. And driving enthusiasts who want rear-wheel drive & the "L" badge would rather get an IS. Again, lower price point and a hell of a sportier drive than the GS.

It is not just the steering. It is the overall handling balance, firmer suspension, and road feel without being harsh. It is also the feeling of being connected and at one with the car and the feeling of being in control. Even the IS don't compare with the current-generation 3-series (I know because I've driven both). I've always had and still have BMWs. I went with the 3GS because I wanted something more luxurious for a more relaxing drive with my family. With the BMWs, I get an adrenaline rush and I tend to drive faster than I need to.