2010 Stereo questions (yes -did a search already)
12-06-09, 05:27 AM
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I know all about the debate over stereo systems, and more specifically the debate over the ML system. I think it's a good system, but I think it is over rated and over priced. While I agree that sound is subjective, I found a test in Edmunds comparing all of the top car stereo's for 2010 - the Acura beats them all. The ML in the LS460 finished second, and from what I've heard the ML in the LS is better than the GS.
Regardless of my comments above, as stated I will get the ML if I get a GS - which is a very good chance I will in the next week or two.
Again, thanks for the input.
12-06-09, 08:03 AM
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I would not get ML...
Next, we listened to both systems with discs that I had with me. The ML sounds a little better, but not night and day. Having said that, all three of us agreed that it was enough of a difference that I would get the ML. My theory is that if I'm going to spend the money to get a Lexus, then why stop short of the best stereo they have to offer.
I went to the dealer and asked to listen to the standard stereo in the GS, and I found very little difference from the ML. For my money the ML would be a waste of $1,500 or so. So I ordered my 2010 GS 450h without the ML.
I also did not order the factory navigation system. I consider any system that does not allow the driver to program it when driving to be garbage. I do have the navi in my 2007 GS. Back in 2007 you could not buy GS 450h without ML and Navi. The 2010 GS 450h I ordered is the base model. I would supplement it with the best available Garmin navi for $300.
12-06-09, 11:55 AM
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because I daily drive my car to work and back. I don't ever see me watching/listening to concerts in my car. The type of music I listen to I just download from itunes and play it from my ipod so thats why I dont really care about a true 5.1 surround sound in my car.
12-06-09, 12:12 PM
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I don't watch them either - but a 5.1 surround is improved sound regardless of whether you are watching it or not.
12-06-09, 12:19 PM
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No not really because the music you buy at stores or on itunes isnt 5.1. I honestly think that only a few genres of music would sound good in 5.1 (eg. classical). Everything else you can't really separate the music into different elements and distribute them individually to each speaker region. Most music is recorded in stereo and the car will emulate surround sound but it isnt a true 5.1 surround sound that you would get on a dvd.
12-06-09, 02:31 PM
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No not really because the music you buy at stores or on itunes isnt 5.1. I honestly think that only a few genres of music would sound good in 5.1 (eg. classical). Everything else you can't really separate the music into different elements and distribute them individually to each speaker region. Most music is recorded in stereo and the car will emulate surround sound but it isnt a true 5.1 surround sound that you would get on a dvd.
Also, all of the cars I've had with surround sound stereos will play DVD-videos of concerts recorded in 5.1. You can still listen to them even though you are not watching them. I do it all the time.
Just to clarify, I'm talking about discs that are available and specifically state that they are 5.1 surround sound.
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12-06-09, 05:51 PM
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12-07-09, 03:23 PM
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To be honest, I thought that DVD-A was finally dead. It was already dying when I bought my 2004 Acura TL. I bought a couple of DVD-A discs, but found them to be a really poor value: I can truly tell the difference from regular stereo sound only when the car is not moving.
12-10-09, 01:31 PM
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i guess everyone is different, i have listened to the new tl system, it's "louder", but idon't think it's as clear.
on the lexus side, the gs ml audio is noticeably better than the premium, but i have to agree that it's far from the normal "ml" audio that i expect on lexus. the 2is has much better ml audio, not to mention the reference system in ls460 which is far superior. the ml system in the gs just lacks the punch and clarity compared to other ml systems. i don't know why, i blame the car
with that said, i also notice big difference between playing dvd and normal audio cd
the ls460 has hdd system, but i believe even for 2010 gs it's still just dvd base, no hdd. trust me, the hdd isn't that much more exciting. you can't copy mp3 songs directly, you can only pop in audio cds and copy from that. in my case most of my songs in computer are already in mp3 format, so when i had my ls460l, the hdd was always empty. i always just burn mp3 cds
2010 has usb connection so that's a plus, get an ipod and you are set
on the lexus side, the gs ml audio is noticeably better than the premium, but i have to agree that it's far from the normal "ml" audio that i expect on lexus. the 2is has much better ml audio, not to mention the reference system in ls460 which is far superior. the ml system in the gs just lacks the punch and clarity compared to other ml systems. i don't know why, i blame the car
with that said, i also notice big difference between playing dvd and normal audio cd
the ls460 has hdd system, but i believe even for 2010 gs it's still just dvd base, no hdd. trust me, the hdd isn't that much more exciting. you can't copy mp3 songs directly, you can only pop in audio cds and copy from that. in my case most of my songs in computer are already in mp3 format, so when i had my ls460l, the hdd was always empty. i always just burn mp3 cds
2010 has usb connection so that's a plus, get an ipod and you are set
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