IS lexus ignorant?
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I dont understand this. You still find issues that was first introduced in 2006 on 2010 cars.... my 09 rattle like hell, and my friends 10' has the same issues. Our brakes squeak like hell too.. I dont understand why they dont fix this before they introduce new model cars? should we get raped dealing with the ordeal of getting them fixed by ourselves, + the labor charges that they are going to charge for every single issue. I love my car but those tiny issues are driving me nuts.. had to vent.....
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I know they aren't ignorant but they don't seem to really care either. Damn bean counters say don't do it and they seem to listen. I'm not buying the Passionate/Relentless pursuit of Perfection or what ever it is anymore...oh yeah lets not leave the engine rattle off the list either.
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I only had the dash rattle on the 07 GS 350 and that was fixed by a single trip to the dealer. The only thing that really bothers me is that the seat coolers don't work when you sit on the seat! They said its a design issue, and that it can't be fixed (dealer did replace it, but same performance).
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if you ask me, they have been putting in some fixes, if possible. however, a lot of these problems are actually design inherent. so unless they do a complete redesign of x number of components, the problem can't be totally fixed. in that case, then it becomes a decision whether it makes sense to spend a million (or more) to redo all the molds, or just deal with case by case.
coz' fact is, not all cars have the same problem, some are good, some got rattles here, some got rattles there. dealerships are told how and what to fix. the overall cost of that might come out to be cheaper
coz' fact is, not all cars have the same problem, some are good, some got rattles here, some got rattles there. dealerships are told how and what to fix. the overall cost of that might come out to be cheaper
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I haven't had the issues you guys complain about.
Seat coolers work, car doesn't rattle at all on normal streets and highways.
I don't like using the seat coolers too much. Feels like I'm wearing wet pants or something.
Center console pops/rattles I guess if I'm driving over bumpy poorly maintained streets, but that's rare and I expect it on those streets, and I think I could fix it myself if I had it was a common issue for me.
Seat coolers work, car doesn't rattle at all on normal streets and highways.
I don't like using the seat coolers too much. Feels like I'm wearing wet pants or something.
Center console pops/rattles I guess if I'm driving over bumpy poorly maintained streets, but that's rare and I expect it on those streets, and I think I could fix it myself if I had it was a common issue for me.
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Some have them not all. Also remember people are going to find forums to complain. Happy owners don't find forums to tell others how great their car is.
Lexus examined the GS for the 2006 issues and looking at the published quality reports, the GS is still high in this regard.
I've owned multiple Lexus, never did I expect them to be perfect. Compared to the other brands my family has bought, they are amazingly quality filled.
We also know Lexus/Toyota did expand greatly the last 10 years and with the rising costs of raw materials cuts were made. They tried their best as Lexus knows if their perception of quality/reliability is hurt, it REALLY would hurt this brand.
Lexus examined the GS for the 2006 issues and looking at the published quality reports, the GS is still high in this regard.
I've owned multiple Lexus, never did I expect them to be perfect. Compared to the other brands my family has bought, they are amazingly quality filled.
We also know Lexus/Toyota did expand greatly the last 10 years and with the rising costs of raw materials cuts were made. They tried their best as Lexus knows if their perception of quality/reliability is hurt, it REALLY would hurt this brand.
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i think lexus gave on gs a long time ago,,,there is no commercial or ads for our cars,,,,everytime my lexus dealership have commercial on tv, they have offers on every model but gs,,,
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these days, you just have to learn to accept rattles (that's the hard part) as a standard feature of japanese cars.
if you don't have them now, you'll eventually have them within 7 years as the mileage racks up, and the roads you drive on get worse
i have never seen a japanese car that didn't have a bunch of extra noises develop within 10 years of buying it.
if you don't have them now, you'll eventually have them within 7 years as the mileage racks up, and the roads you drive on get worse
i have never seen a japanese car that didn't have a bunch of extra noises develop within 10 years of buying it.
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Taking my GS350 to the shop on Saturday........100 miles til' my Factory Warranty ends.....squeaks and rattles haven't been that bad, but they're there.....might as well have em' do the fix. As far as Lexus being ignorant....well people imagine all the $$$$ they've made off us.....they've been laughing all the way to the bank. I love my 3GS though.
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In our 06, the rattles have come and gone. We don't focus on this stuff the way many of you all do.
In our 07, no rattles until recently. The drivers door does some kinda squeak. I think it has something to do with me resting my elbow on the door while I drive. Don't bother me too much, especially with the music on.
In our 07, no rattles until recently. The drivers door does some kinda squeak. I think it has something to do with me resting my elbow on the door while I drive. Don't bother me too much, especially with the music on.
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I dont understand this. You still find issues that was first introduced in 2006 on 2010 cars.... my 09 rattle like hell, and my friends 10' has the same issues. Our brakes squeak like hell too.. I dont understand why they dont fix this before they introduce new model cars? should we get raped dealing with the ordeal of getting them fixed by ourselves, + the labor charges that they are going to charge for every single issue. I love my car but those tiny issues are driving me nuts.. had to vent.....
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I personally think it depends on the person, how it is driven, weather, roads, and how the car is taken care of overall. just because it WAS a 50k car (unless you just got a 2010), it doesn't mean perfection. thats why they were still in pursuit of perfection. lol
how many of you seriously have paid 50k+ for your gs? I did back in 05 but it didn't have any problems BACK THEN, but I have rattles and problems NOW, nothing serious that makes me go OMG, but then again the car is almost 5 years old so I think its a given.
just my 2cents. I just think it's wear and tare
how many of you seriously have paid 50k+ for your gs? I did back in 05 but it didn't have any problems BACK THEN, but I have rattles and problems NOW, nothing serious that makes me go OMG, but then again the car is almost 5 years old so I think its a given.
just my 2cents. I just think it's wear and tare