Are these rotors any good ? (OEM size cross drilled or slotted or both thread)
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Why don't u read exactly what you have posted above for you're self and then let me know if Slotted and drilled rotors help remove gas and cool down faster. Maybe you want to answer why does the biggest and best BBK company brembo uses drilled and slotted rotors, or why does a top manufacters use drilled rotors, Mercedes, BMW,aston martin,etc ect. Because its cools down the rotors and you don't have brake fade. One think i do agree on is YES brake pads make a difference, but not only will brake pads will be needed so will the rotors,brake lines, racing high heat brake fluid, and racing brake pads. They all make a dramatic difference when it comes down to that.
I have no idea what you meant by reading what I wrote. But if you mean de-gassing them? That is not even applicable anymore.
What you are talking about....pads, rotors, brake fluid, lines. Pads make a huge difference. Lines make a difference. High heat brake fluid? Like what would that be? DOT5?
The only reason they do it on those cars you listed? It looks nice.
In open tracking, where cars routinely hit 100-130+ at Brainerd International Speedway...all of the "real" race cars use blank rotors.
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No. The main priority of the rotor is to dissipate heat. You drill holes in it and you take away material, which means it takes longer for the rotors to get rid of excess heat which causes brake fade.
I have no idea what you meant by reading what I wrote. But if you mean de-gassing them? That is not even applicable anymore.
What you are talking about....pads, rotors, brake fluid, lines. Pads make a huge difference. Lines make a difference. High heat brake fluid? Like what would that be? DOT5?
The only reason they do it on those cars you listed? It looks nice.
In open tracking, where cars routinely hit 100-130+ at Brainerd International Speedway...all of the "real" race cars use blank rotors.
I have no idea what you meant by reading what I wrote. But if you mean de-gassing them? That is not even applicable anymore.
What you are talking about....pads, rotors, brake fluid, lines. Pads make a huge difference. Lines make a difference. High heat brake fluid? Like what would that be? DOT5?
The only reason they do it on those cars you listed? It looks nice.
In open tracking, where cars routinely hit 100-130+ at Brainerd International Speedway...all of the "real" race cars use blank rotors.
At present, Brembo employees*more than*5400 people,*about 10% of which are engineers and product specialists working in research and development. Now if 503 engineers are morons i would expect one of them would realize that drilled and slotted rotors aren't the best for racing or stopping. Now dismiss my case and please do you're research next time. And on top of all that i changed 3 rotor pairs on my acura tsx in about 10,000 miles, kept using OEM rotors, once i switched to cross drilled and slotted never brake fade with oem acura pads and never did i have vibrate in my steering. Believe me i put those rotors through extreme conditions like going (147 miles) and hitting the brake to the floor as hard as i can. It stopped on a dime like i was going 40 miles. I also put 50k miles on them. When i say i speak from personal experience and research i really do know what i am talking about.
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Yes those companies make drilled rotors. Yes they are for looks. Yes they recommend them. Why? They cost more.
No they do not do the things you say.
No I do not believe you were going 147 and stomped on the brakes as hard as you could.
Please find me the definition of what a rotor does, and then explain to me how taking material away from it is beneficial.
Sorry you have not proved anything.
No they do not do the things you say.
No I do not believe you were going 147 and stomped on the brakes as hard as you could.
Please find me the definition of what a rotor does, and then explain to me how taking material away from it is beneficial.
Sorry you have not proved anything.
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HOLY LOLOLOLOLOL this thread is ridiculous...
first off 147 in a TSX...what race track were you on?
even so, smashing the brake pedal to slow down 1 time regardless from what mph you were going isn't exactly abuse.
Drive a track car on a track then form an opinion.
See my pic....that's my track car.
first off 147 in a TSX...what race track were you on?
even so, smashing the brake pedal to slow down 1 time regardless from what mph you were going isn't exactly abuse.
Drive a track car on a track then form an opinion.
See my pic....that's my track car.
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Interesting. Car and driver says the TSX can't get to 147mph.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
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LOL it's like saying that BP is being honest about not being able cap the well 4 months ago because they have lots of employees lots of engineers and make lots of money
simple answer.
drill holes ..make slots.
PROFIT
DON'T CAP WELL ...PROFIT
simple answer.
drill holes ..make slots.
PROFIT
DON'T CAP WELL ...PROFIT
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Interesting. Car and driver says the TSX can't get to 147mph.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
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The rotors in the original link seems okay if they are indeed Centric with the nonsense slot design. I've priced out the rotors on tirerack's website and they seem to coincide with the ebay link. Not a spectacular deal by any means.
By the way, have you checked the brake pad's shims and clips that goes along with the pad? The pads might be shifting around.
By the way, have you checked the brake pad's shims and clips that goes along with the pad? The pads might be shifting around.
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to GS350Lexus, short answer to your post. if you think going up to 147 and then hard brake and you know what brake fade is all about, then i can only say you have no idea what brake fade is about. your rotors don't even get close to be hot enough to enter the fading stage (if it does, then those brake setup is garbage on one stop).
on another note, i already said back on topic clearly in my post before yours, so to everyone no more OT posts or they will be removed