Stick with OEM brake pads? Maybe rotors are bad as well?
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About a week ago I bought an 08 AWD GS 350 from a Lexus dealer. The car is still under warranty, but not a CPO. After the purchase I noticed that it makes a really loud, annoying, screeching sound when braking at low speeds (Something along these lines: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzHtB6c0ld4). This is happens in both forward and reverse directions. I think the front left brake is the culprit. I have also noticed that the brake paddle wobbles when braking at higher speeds pointing to some sort of possible rotor issues.
I have an appointment with the local dealer tomorrow morning to get it checked out and I am guessing that I will have to replace at least the brake pads. Looking around on the forums I have read that people suggest aftermarket brake pads. How important is that? Any ideas on how much the dealer might charge? Would any of this be covered under warranty? I saw that there was a TSIB for a similar issue, but I read that it might apply only to 07 GS'.
I am surprised that the official Lexus dealer that I bought this from, who is very far, in another state, did not catch this in their "extensive" God-knows-how-many point check. They did replace the tires and took care of some other recall, but somehow missed this. Depending on what I find out, I am thinking of contacting their manager to let them know how unsatisfied I am.
About a week ago I bought an 08 AWD GS 350 from a Lexus dealer. The car is still under warranty, but not a CPO. After the purchase I noticed that it makes a really loud, annoying, screeching sound when braking at low speeds (Something along these lines: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzHtB6c0ld4). This is happens in both forward and reverse directions. I think the front left brake is the culprit. I have also noticed that the brake paddle wobbles when braking at higher speeds pointing to some sort of possible rotor issues.
I have an appointment with the local dealer tomorrow morning to get it checked out and I am guessing that I will have to replace at least the brake pads. Looking around on the forums I have read that people suggest aftermarket brake pads. How important is that? Any ideas on how much the dealer might charge? Would any of this be covered under warranty? I saw that there was a TSIB for a similar issue, but I read that it might apply only to 07 GS'.
I am surprised that the official Lexus dealer that I bought this from, who is very far, in another state, did not catch this in their "extensive" God-knows-how-many point check. They did replace the tires and took care of some other recall, but somehow missed this. Depending on what I find out, I am thinking of contacting their manager to let them know how unsatisfied I am.
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I would go back to the dealer u brought it from and raise hell because u just brought that car... Trust me, they'll fix it for u. But, u should have noticed that sound when u brought it and made them fix it before u drove it away
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i have the same issue right now after replacing brake pads and rotors. I'm guessing mine is an install issue and something wasn't set right. Is your car squealing when making turns even when not pressing the brake?
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Strange how they sold that car with it making noise like that. They are usually very thorough about their certified products. Here is my two cents.
I have a 07 GS 350 which is sitting at the dealer right now as I type this getting its 60k service done (thats a whole other thread I posted here last week - to replace the plugs at 60k or not) Yesterday the service writer called me to state that there is a "lip" on the outer edge of the rotor and that 1) they will not turn Lexus rotors like everyone else in the world and 2) that they will not put new pads on the current rotors.
If you are following me then you see that they are saying that I need new rotors and pads! They wanted $800 to put on both rotors and pads.
Granted, I too was hitting the wear indicators (that screeching you hear) but it was not in all the same circumstances as yours. I have a trusted Japanese car repair shop owner who stated he could do it for half that price, using the same OEM rotors. I get a military discount at all parts stores so he just said grab the parts and he would repair them. Based on what I read, and spoke to various techs on, you SHOULD use the OEM rotors since aftermarket ones are not as sound. But Raybestos pads (blue or gold box) are fine.
I am all about having Lexus do serious stuff on the maint schedule but some things are just too steep for my bank account. I would def get with them on your issue and see if they can eat the brake job since you just bought it from them. Good luck and keep it on two wheels!!
I have a 07 GS 350 which is sitting at the dealer right now as I type this getting its 60k service done (thats a whole other thread I posted here last week - to replace the plugs at 60k or not) Yesterday the service writer called me to state that there is a "lip" on the outer edge of the rotor and that 1) they will not turn Lexus rotors like everyone else in the world and 2) that they will not put new pads on the current rotors.
If you are following me then you see that they are saying that I need new rotors and pads! They wanted $800 to put on both rotors and pads.
Granted, I too was hitting the wear indicators (that screeching you hear) but it was not in all the same circumstances as yours. I have a trusted Japanese car repair shop owner who stated he could do it for half that price, using the same OEM rotors. I get a military discount at all parts stores so he just said grab the parts and he would repair them. Based on what I read, and spoke to various techs on, you SHOULD use the OEM rotors since aftermarket ones are not as sound. But Raybestos pads (blue or gold box) are fine.
I am all about having Lexus do serious stuff on the maint schedule but some things are just too steep for my bank account. I would def get with them on your issue and see if they can eat the brake job since you just bought it from them. Good luck and keep it on two wheels!!
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No, in my case it is only when I press the brake. I haven't noticed any relation to turns.
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I have the EXACT same noise as you. I took it to the dealer and they said the brake pads are fine. They were actually new. I had bought my car used so apparently the person before me who took to get the pads changed had tossed away the shims which is causing that noise. I"m wondering if there's anyway to do something about replacing just shims instead of getting all new pads
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I have the EXACT same noise as you. I took it to the dealer and they said the brake pads are fine. They were actually new. I had bought my car used so apparently the person before me who took to get the pads changed had tossed away the shims which is causing that noise. I"m wondering if there's anyway to do something about replacing just shims instead of getting all new pads
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Thanks everyone for the input. I just dropped off the car at the dealership. They should be getting back to me within the next hour or two. I will post an update on what they find out.
@GunnyFitz This wasn't a CPO, but the Lexus dealer was still claiming that they did the extensive check. Thanks for your input. Depending on how much they quote, I might just bring it back and have it done elsewhere because $800 is a lot more than what I am hoping to pay. I can live with the rotors for a bit, but the screeching sound is just too much.
@mag1c12783 Unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge to answer your question, but my guess would be that you probably can.
@GunnyFitz This wasn't a CPO, but the Lexus dealer was still claiming that they did the extensive check. Thanks for your input. Depending on how much they quote, I might just bring it back and have it done elsewhere because $800 is a lot more than what I am hoping to pay. I can live with the rotors for a bit, but the screeching sound is just too much.
@mag1c12783 Unfortunately, I don't have enough knowledge to answer your question, but my guess would be that you probably can.
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I also had the loud squealing sound when I was breaking when I bought my Gs this past New years. But when I got the car inspected the breaks passed and when I got my oil changed they said the breaks are good. But anyway I lived with it for a while and it stopped. It might do it from time to time but not every time I break now.
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Just got a call back. They are going to replace the pads and rotors under a TSIB so they will be covering the cost! Yay! =D Will go pick up it up in a few hours. Nice
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