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Staggered or not? Plus What Drop?

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Old 07-26-11, 02:12 PM
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non-staggered handles better than staggered? let me go change out rear wheels on my m3 to narrower ones to match with the front. same with isf and lfa owners
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Originally Posted by Ice350
Ask anyone who really knows about high performance driving. Since none of us is racing the car, it matters little. All that matters is the look.
Please tell me you're not serious? Please!
Old 07-26-11, 06:03 PM
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Staggered. I went with Megan springs and camber kit. 2 in the front and 1.75 in the rear. I have no regrets whats so ever. Car rides great. Rolling on Linea Corse Dyna 19's.8.5 fronts and 10 in the rear.
Old 07-26-11, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by denvergs4
Debt ceiling...that's a good one If google and all my tech stocks keep climbing maybe I'll buy new. There's always a good deal out there to find though...reason for my budget being blown is some retard sold me a 65 continental convertible for 12k all original...it was an estate sale...then they call me after they found out how bad they messed up and tried to tell me they didn't have the power to sell it...hahaha talk with my attorney, title has been transferred.

I'll wait it out, I do like Vossen though. Lots of good reviews on here. So if anyone wants to sell some used ones let me know...and Mike if Google hits $660 a share I'll buy that same day, lol!

Thanks again guys...like always this forum produces good advise!
another option to consider: get the used vossens, and sell 2 of them to someone who wants a spare wheel or two. then buy the rear staggered vossens with the money you got + credit card, then your out of pocket is less than if you had bought without selling the 2 spares.
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Originally Posted by rominl
non-staggered handles better than staggered? let me go change out rear wheels on my m3 to narrower ones to match with the front. same with isf and lfa owners
Yes it does. Staggered causes more over steer requiring more difficult adjustments by the driver.
Old 07-26-11, 09:22 PM
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Great looking 3GS on page 1! I'm envious of the 3rd-gen GS owners.

Guess I'll have to do staggered Spiders on my 2GS.
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Originally Posted by Ice350
Yes it does. Staggered causes more over steer requiring more difficult adjustments by the driver.
As opposed to what? Less under steer?
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Originally Posted by Ice350
Yes it does. Staggered causes more over steer requiring more difficult adjustments by the driver.
no it does not. more rear traction will cause the rear to not go out as easy, that means less oversteer. that's simple fact. again, all sports car disagree with you. staggered setup yields better performance if driven right. of course if not driving right, a car will go everywhere/anywhere
Old 07-27-11, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by denvergs4
I'm in Lone Tree near Park Meadows mall...and you're right barley anyone has the GS430 here not to mention a modified one.

We should have a meet up sometime.
Yeah, I agree.

If you are looking for a good shop near you, I recommend http://toycarcare.com

- MiKe
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Originally Posted by rominl
no it does not. more rear traction will cause the rear to not go out as easy, that means less oversteer. that's simple fact. again, all sports car disagree with you. staggered setup yields better performance if driven right. of course if not driving right, a car will go everywhere/anywhere
Sorry Henry, I meant under steer. Here's an excerpt from ehow.com on why understeer can be a problem for cars not engineered for staggered set-ups:


Can Potentially Cause Unbalanced Handling

A potential downside to installing staggered tires is that the handling balance can become spoiled, particularly in a vehicle that does not have a chassis optimized for a staggered wheel and tire setup. Wider rear tires provide more grip than narrower front tires, which can potentially cause understeer, which is where the front tires slide towards the outside of the turn and are in effect being "pushed" by the rear tires, which are sticking better to the pavement.



Read more: Staggered Wheels Pros & Cons | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_5999334_sta...#ixzz1TKwfzW5M


Here's my bottom line. When I had non-staggered wheels, I drove the car like I stole it. It handled much better. I felt so much more confident with the feel and feedback I received. It felt more stable but easier to manuever. I could floor it then easily handle oncoming traffic.
With staggered wheels, the main benefit in performance is not there for us non-racers. Big/wide rear tires are definitely better for drag racing. They are also better in cars engineered for such set-ups. But we won't benefit much doing our highway weaving.
But, we can never forget why we really do this. It looks so darn cool. That's all that really matters.

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