Does anyone know what brand lexus uses to paint GFM color cars... or has anyone had to match a GFM car by painting just one part of the car opposed to blending it in painting another part of the car? PLEase help.. Paint chipped while rolling front fender and the shops tried 3 different times between this and last week and cant get it to match.. Even tho weve been using the same color code..

 

Doesnt matter the type of paint you use, it matters the experience of the painter and how he tints and lays the paint and clear for it to match. Pearl whites are very hard to match, and requires a lot of blending into other panels to get it right. I suggest you find another shop.

Where in FL are you? My buddy owns a certified lexus body shop in Tampa. Last time I check he was spraying with Glasurit and then switched to another brand.

What type of paint did your painter spray with?

 

Being that you probably popped the paint in the middle of the panel since it was while rolling, blending will likely be necessary. Panel painted tri-coats rarely work out. I can honestly say that Toyota as a company seem to have a lack in quality control with colors. The same code on two different cars tend to be very different. I say this as a painter, as well as a long time Toyota brand owner. The particular paint does in fact matter, as the cheaper/lesser quality the paint, the further off in color you will likely be from the get go. BRAND is not as much a factor as the specific line being sprayed. If they are trying to panel paint, they probably need to be blending.

 

Even if he had the same brand paint as oem, and even if you had the best oem paint on the car. There are many variable that throw off a paint, like the car being used, the brand of clear used, the air psi in the gun, orange peel of the clear, the temp when it was painted and many others.

Like you mentioned tri colors and or candy matching are more difficult. I used to paint race bikes for myself and for fun have painted cars aswell

 

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I was simply saying if you use ANY brand's lower lines, you will likely have a harder time with the color from the time you mix it. That's all. It wasn't a brand reference or saying you have to spray exactly what's on the car already....that's ridiculous and completely untrue. As for the rest.....for a car to be used enough to drastically change the color, it would have to be aged (with VERY few problematic exceptions). A few years old is not going to affect anything. Your clear should be matched to the color you're spraying, so if you're spraying a lower line color....you're getting a lower line clear. As with color, the less you're willing to pay, the lower the quality you will get. Too much peel really just affects how finished the final product looks (and tells you to get wetter). PSI and temp will always change things. Heat can be a real pita for pearls and metallics, specifically lighter ones. Solvent was a little easier in this regard, because you usually had different temp reducers to interchange as needed. We've sprayed water the past couple years, and that is not so much an option so instead of changing product, you have to change how you spray. Then there's the humidity.....yada yada. As far as the OP, I don't think I've sprayed 073 enough to have it burned into my memory how difficult it is, but I can say others such as 070, 065, 066, so on.....I have a collection in my sprayout deck. As I said before, you can have two in a row the same Toyota code that look nothing alike. Therefore, as ibidu1 said, they either need to tint, blend, or both. It's just unacceptable to say "I can't figure it out".

 

good luck. i had a gfm and it was pita to match

 

Thanks alot man and thanks alot to all of u that tried to help me out.. As far as the paint ones i payed 90 bucks for a small pint of a brand called deltron n that didnt match.. So wha hes gonna do is what he should've originally done and take the gas cap to buy the paint n paint a few things to see which matches. Im praying this will work this time.. This sucks!! Thanks again for all yall help .. And as far as the car.. I barely drive her and shes ALWAYS In my garage.. Besides its an 07 gs with only 64k so shes still new...

 

Thanks man.. Did they get it right for u? Wha brand did they go with? N did they have to blend or no? Cuz thats the problem im having.. I dnt wanna blend.:. That color is too difficult and if its being hard on just the fender imagine the going into the other parts..

 

no it didnt match very well. keep in mind actual sunlight and artificial light show paint differently.

i dunno what brand they went with. its a hard color to match because of the pearl.

 

I see the first problem. I assumed it was being mixed on site, therefore tinting would be accessible. Mixing and shooting a color like that without a comparison to the vehicle doesn't usually work very well. Taking the gas door would be a good idea. The color can actually vary a bit from corner to corner, but that should get you close enough to blend, which you will almost for sure have to do. Blending is actually a good thing when you have a color that is a little off, because you're doing just that....blending the color into the next panel. It's all about deceiving the eye. Deltron isn't a terrible line, though I'm more familiar with their clears than I am the color, etc. You bought "a" pint? You should have had 2 for a tri coat. One will be a white basecoat, the other a transparent pearl midcoat. I can't imagine they'd have that as a two stage, but I have seen it before with a couple similar colors, and like I said I'm not overly familiar with their colors. Is this being done at a shop, or just a friend? Is he spraying Deltron clear as well.....DC2000, DC3000, DC4000? If/when you end up blending, please--PLEASE disassemble the door before doing so lol. When you get more paint, ask them for some spray out cards. Tape one to a mixing stick. Put down the white base until it's covered. When it's dry enough for the midcoat, paper off one half of the card and spray the mid over the other. Then carefully pull the paper and put 2 or 3 coats over the whole thing (letting each coat dry of course). This will give you an idea of how much the mid is changing the color with each coat, and one of the halves might be about what you're looking for. Usually 3 or 4 coats of mid is common. Can you take any pictures of what you have now?

 

Ive sprayed ppg deltron before and it is pretty good stuff. I have a feeling the person painting isn't experienced enough.

What panel are you tring to paint?