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Old 10-07-16, 06:30 PM
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Question 2008 GS350 AWD or 2010 ES350 ?

Hello kind folks of Club Lexus Land. I need some input here; next week am thinking of getting one of these cars; which one should I realistically get? I know I'm posting this in the GS-forum so hopefully opinions truly stay objective. But I sincerely need help here folks; thanks!

1.) 2008 GS 350 AWD with 96,330 miles ... 1-owner, Clean Carfax ... for $13,650

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2.) 2010 ES 350 with 86,195 miles ... 2-owner, Clean Carfax ... for $13,400
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Well what are you looking for in a car and what are you coming from?
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Can someone explain the pros and cons of getting the ES350 over the GS 350 AWD ?
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If you're looking for a comfortable and roomy ride get the ES. If you want a fun, sporty, faster, way less body roll on corners get the GS. I came from an ES my self and will tell you that I like the GS way more, not because the ES is a bad car, it's in fact very reliable and nice car, but because it meant for older people. And now I like how stiff my GS is compared to the ES.
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Originally Posted by evolvedgs
Can someone explain the pros and cons of getting the ES350 over the GS 350 AWD ?
Cons:
  • ES350 has less power (268HP vs. 303 from the GS)
  • ES is front wheel drive (i.e. the devil's drivetrain)
  • ES will be less exciting to drive
  • ES is much more common than the GS
  • There are probably fewer aftermarket options (though this could also be a pro if you don't want the temptation).
Pros:
  • The ES engine is transversally mounted and the engine compartment is somewhat more cluttered – this is good if you don't like DIY maintenance since it makes taking the car to the dealer/independent shop easier to justify to yourself
  • The lack of a prop shaft means that rear seat passengers will have a bit more legroom, especially in the middle seat
  • The suspension is softer in the ES, which is very good if you have a bad back or fairly bad osteoporosis
  • If you don't like the letter "G", you won't have to say it when you tell people what kind of car you recently purchased
  • GS can have some rattles, which may not be a problem in the ES
All kidding aside, they're both going to be great cars, it comes down to the kind of experience you want – do you place most of your emphasis on comfort, or do you like to put your foot down and go around corners quickly?

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I was in a somewhat similar conundrum, looking at 2006-2008 GS cars and a few ES350s as well. Mine came down to purely subjective reasons. I strongly prefer the styling and ride of the GS vs. the ES. What was tempting about the ES was the fact that because it has a lower price point, I was getting a newer car with lower miles for a similar price. Fortunately my wife agreed, stating that the ES reminded her too much of a Camry.
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Originally Posted by tayslexus
If you're looking for a comfortable and roomy ride get the ES. If you want a fun, sporty, faster, way less body roll on corners get the GS. I came from an ES my self and will tell you that I like the GS way more, not because the ES is a bad car, it's in fact very reliable and nice car, but because it meant for older people. And now I like how stiff my GS is compared to the ES.
Great input on both cars; I'm going to keep all this mind ... thanks!

Originally Posted by Sodium
Cons:
  • ES350 has less power (268HP vs. 303 from the GS)
  • ES is front wheel drive (i.e. the devil's drivetrain)
  • ES will be less exciting to drive
  • ES is much more common than the GS
  • There are probably fewer aftermarket options (though this could also be a pro if you don't want the temptation).
Pros:
  • The ES engine is transversally mounted and the engine compartment is somewhat more cluttered – this is good if you don't like DIY maintenance since it makes taking the car to the dealer/independent shop easier to justify to yourself
  • The lack of a prop shaft means that rear seat passengers will have a bit more legroom, especially in the middle seat
  • The suspension is softer in the ES, which is very good if you have a bad back or fairly bad osteoporosis
  • If you don't like the letter "G", you won't have to say it when you tell people what kind of car you recently purchased
  • GS can have some rattles, which may not be a problem in the ES
All kidding aside, they're both going to be great cars, it comes down to the kind of experience you want – do you place most of your emphasis on comfort, or do you like to put your foot down and go around corners quickly?
Amazing breakdown and very helpful Sodium! Which is something I try to stay away from ... Sodium that is!

Also; the service history on Lexus Drivers site shows that the car has been in the state of MA its entirety with one-owner ... should I stay away from this car because it is from up north?

Also; the service history shows at mileage 96,221 that the car needed the following ...

SERVICE: WILL NEED TO REPLACE EXHAUST
DESCRIPTION: WILL NEED TO REPLACE EXHAUST ~ ~C/S CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS ON - PLEASE PERFORM DIAGNOSTIC AND ADVISE ~ ~



But there is no mention on the service records of it being replaced because the service record right after the above is the last service record at 96,255 for this car and it shows this ...


SERVICE:
DESCRIPTION: PLEASE ROAD-TEST VEHICLE TO NORMAL HIGHWAY SPEEDS TO IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS ~ ~PLEASE ROAD-TEST VEHICLE TO NORMAL HIGHWAY SPEEDS TO IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS ~ ~NORMAL VEHICLE RECONDITIONING ~ ~96221 ALL AOKPLEASE ROAD-TEST VEHICLE TO NORMAL HIGHWAY SPEEDS TO IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS
SERVICE: 1.0 CK W P BR
DESCRIPTION: 1.0 CK W P BR ~ ~1.0 CK W P BR ~ ~PER USED CAR DEPARTMENT ~ ~96221 COMPLEET DSAFTY CHECK
SERVICE: 96245
DESCRIPTION: 96245 ~ ~TMU CK IN MILEAGE ~ ~ ~ ~96221 96255
SERVICE: 96255
DESCRIPTION: 96255 ~ ~MILEAGE OUT ~ ~ ~ ~96221 96255
SERVICE: MC CK DONE
DESCRIPTION: MC CK DONE ~ ~PLEASE CHECK ALL WINDOW/MOON ROOF FUNCTION - ALL DOOR LOCK FUNCTION - RADIO OPERATION - HEAT AND A/C OPERATION - SIDE VIEW MIRROR OPERATION ~ ~ ~ ~96221 ALL AOK
SERVICE: WL IN TRUNK
DESCRIPTION: WL IN TRUNK ~ ~PLEASE CONFIRM LOCATION OF WHEEL-LOCK KEY - GLOVEBOX ~ ~CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS ~ ~96221 TRUNK



The mileage now that the car is being sold at is 96,330 . What do you think?


Originally Posted by jmavila
I was in a somewhat similar conundrum, looking at 2006-2008 GS cars and a few ES350s as well. Mine came down to purely subjective reasons. I strongly prefer the styling and ride of the GS vs. the ES. What was tempting about the ES was the fact that because it has a lower price point, I was getting a newer car with lower miles for a similar price. Fortunately my wife agreed, stating that the ES reminded her too much of a Camry.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
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Here is the ENTIRE service history on the car as per Lexus Drivers site. What do you guys think ? I just need input before parting ways with my hard earned money and before I make a potential $$$$ mistake.


SERVICE HISTORY

SERVICE HISTORY FOR: GS350
VIN: JTHCE96S480017664
Filter History By Year
ALLAll 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 200896255 MILES

DATE: 08/01/2016


REPAIR# 0624053
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE:
DESCRIPTION: PLEASE ROAD-TEST VEHICLE TO NORMAL HIGHWAY SPEEDS TO IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS ~|~PLEASE ROAD-TEST VEHICLE TO NORMAL HIGHWAY SPEEDS TO IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS ~|~NORMAL VEHICLE RECONDITIONING ~|~96221 ALL AOKPLEASE ROAD-TEST VEHICLE TO NORMAL HIGHWAY SPEEDS TO IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS
SERVICE: 1.0 CK W P BR
DESCRIPTION: 1.0 CK W P BR ~|~1.0 CK W P BR ~|~PER USED CAR DEPARTMENT ~|~96221 COMPLEET DSAFTY CHECK
SERVICE: 96245
DESCRIPTION: 96245 ~|~TMU CK IN MILEAGE ~|~ ~|~96221 96255
SERVICE: 96255
DESCRIPTION: 96255 ~|~MILEAGE OUT ~|~ ~|~96221 96255
SERVICE: MC CK DONE
DESCRIPTION: MC CK DONE ~|~PLEASE CHECK ALL WINDOW/MOON ROOF FUNCTION - ALL DOOR LOCK FUNCTION - RADIO OPERATION - HEAT AND A/C OPERATION - SIDE VIEW MIRROR OPERATION ~|~ ~|~96221 ALL AOK
SERVICE: WL IN TRUNK
DESCRIPTION: WL IN TRUNK ~|~PLEASE CONFIRM LOCATION OF WHEEL-LOCK KEY - GLOVEBOX ~|~CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS ~|~96221 TRUNK96221 MILES

DATE: 07/21/2016


REPAIR# 0622974
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 96222
DESCRIPTION: 96222 ~|~MILEAGE OUT ~|~
SERVICE: WILL NEED TO REPLACE EXHAUST
DESCRIPTION: WILL NEED TO REPLACE EXHAUST ~|~C/S CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS ON - PLEASE PERFORM DIAGNOSTIC AND ADVISE ~|~93119 MILES

DATE: 08/21/2015


REPAIR# 0581499
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE:
DESCRIPTION: 90000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE FLUID,ADD FUEL CLE ~|~90000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE FLUID,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,WIPER INSERTS,LUBE ALL LOCKS AND HINGES,CLEAN THROTTLE,REPLACE FILTERS ~|~ ~|~93118 PERFORMED 90K SERVICE, REPLACED OIL AND FILTER, BALANCED AND ROTATED TIRES AND SET AIR PRESSURE TO 36 PSI, FRONT TIRES MEASURED AT 9/32S AND REARS AT 9.5-6/32S, FRONT BRAKES MEASURED AT 6MM AND REARS AT 4MM, BATTERY MEASURED AT 12.66 VOLTS, STATE IN90000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE FLUID,ADD FUEL CLEREPLACED REAR BRAKE PADS AND MACHINED REAR ROTORS - LUBED CALIPER BRAKE SLIDES & SHIMS - ROAD-TEST ~|~BRAKE JOB - REAR (REPLACE PADS/RESURFACE ROTORS): NEED PRICE FOR REAR BRAKE PADS (203950694) ~|~ ~|~93118 411:REPLACED REAR BRAKE PADS AND RESURFACED ROTORSREPLACED REAR BRAKE PADS AND MACHINED REAR ROTORS - LUBED CALIPER BRAKE SLIDES & SHIMS - ROAD-TESTLEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS YOU USE AS COURTE ~|~LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS YOU USE AS COURTESY TO NEXT GUEST ~ $30 FEE PER 1/4 TANK FOR GAS NOT REPLACED APPLIES TO ALL CLIENTS ~ ~|~LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS YOU USE AS COURTE
SERVICE: BRAKE CALIPER REPLACEMENT - REAR: NEED PRICE FOR R/R CALIPER (203950833)
DESCRIPTION: BRAKE CALIPER REPLACEMENT - REAR: NEED PRICE FOR R/R CALIPER (203950833) ~|~BRAKE CALIPER REPLACEMENT - REAR: NEED PRICE FOR R/R CALIPER (203950833) ~|~ ~|~93118 171:REPLACED R/R CALIPER
SERVICE: CUSTOMER REQUESTS PROGRAMMING OF KEY
DESCRIPTION: CUSTOMER REQUESTS PROGRAMMING OF KEY ~|~CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO GET HIS NAV UPDATED ~|~DUE TO CUSTOMER REQUEST ~|~93118 PERFORMED NAVIGATION UPDATE
SERVICE: DEFAULT
DESCRIPTION: DEFAULT ~|~MILEAGE OUT ~|~ ~|~93118 MILEAGE OUT IS 93,119
SERVICE: PERFORM REQUIRED MAINTENANCE
DESCRIPTION: PERFORM REQUIRED MAINTENANCE ~|~CLIENT STATES THERE IS A CHIP ON THE DRIVERS SIDE WINDOW, CAN IT BE REPAIRED ~|~ ~|~93118 RECOMMEND GLASS REPAIR GUY TO LOOK AT GLASSPERFORM REQUIRED MAINTENANCE ~|~CLIENT SYAYES THE NAVIGATION DISPLAY USED TO GO DARK AT NIGHT, NOW IT STAYS BRIGHTS..PLEASE INSPECT AND ADVISE ~|~ ~|~93118 AT INSPECTION COULD NOT DUPLICATE CONCERN CUSTOMER IS HAVING. NAVIGATION GOES TO DARK DISPLAY WHEN LIGHTS ARE TURNED ON. AT THIS TIME NAVIGATION IS WORKING AS DESIGNEDPERFORM REQUIRED MAINTENANCE ~|~PERFORM STATE INSPECTION ~|~
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~ ~|~93118 MAINTENANCE LIGHT WAS RESET85801 MILES

DATE: 06/30/2015


REPAIR# 574819C
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE:
DESCRIPTION: 85000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,AD ~|~85000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,CHECK WIPERS,ROAD TEST,LUBE LOCKS AND HINGES,RESET MAINT LIGHT ~|~ ~|~85799 70 PERFORMED 85K SERVICE STATE INSPECTION DUE OCT/15 FRONT TIRES AT 9/32ND REAR TIRES AT 5 AND 7/32ND FRONT BRAKE PADS AT 6MM REAR BRAKE PADS AT 4MM TIRE PRESSURES SET TO 33PSI85000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,AD
SERVICE: 85800
DESCRIPTION: 85800 ~|~MILEAGE OUT ~|~ ~|~85799 85800
SERVICE: LEFT REAR TIRE BALDING ON INNER EDGE. MOUNT AND BALANCE NEW TIRE
DESCRIPTION: LEFT REAR TIRE BALDING ON INNER EDGE. MOUNT AND BALANCE NEW TIRE ~|~TIRES - 1 RUN FLAT: PRICE FOR [1] TIRE 225/50-RF17 DUNLOP SP SPORT 5000M DSST A/S (191510751) ~|~ ~|~85799 REPLACED DRIVERS SIDE REAR TIRE
SERVICE: LOANER
DESCRIPTION: LOANER ~|~LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS YOU USE AS COURTESY TO NEXT GUEST ~ $30 FEE PER 1/4 TANK FOR GAS NOT REPLACED APPLIES TO ALL CLIENTS ~ ~|~
SERVICE: PERFORMED WHEEL ALIGNMENT
DESCRIPTION: PERFORMED WHEEL ALIGNMENT ~|~ALIGNMENT: RECOMMEND ALIGNMENT W/TIRE (191510780) ~|~ ~|~85799 3PERFORMED A FOUR WHEEL ALIGNMENT
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~85801 MILES

DATE: 06/30/2015


REPAIR# 0574819
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: ELF-REPL FUEL PRESSURE GASKE T-IS250,IS350,GS300,350,450H
DESCRIPTION: ELF-REPL FUEL PRESSURE GASKE T-IS250,IS350,GS300,350,450H ~|~ELF CAMPAIGN - POTENTIAL FUEL PRESSURE SENSOR LEAK ~|~ELF RECALL ~|~85799 COMPLETED ELF
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: A
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: A ~|~MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: A ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: B
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: B ~|~MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: B ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: C
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: C ~|~MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: C ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: D
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: D ~|~MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: D ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: E
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: E ~|~MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: E ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: F
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: F ~|~MOVED TO: 574819C LINE: F ~|~80759 MILES

DATE: 06/13/2014


REPAIR# 0527994
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE:
DESCRIPTION: LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS YOU USE AS COURTE ~|~LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS YOU USE AS COURTESY TO NEXT GUEST ~ $30 FEE PER 1/4 TANK FOR GAS NOT REPLACED APPLIES TO ALL CLIENTS ~ ~|~LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS YOU USE AS COURTE
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: A
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: A ~|~MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: A ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: B
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: B ~|~MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: B ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: C
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: C ~|~MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: C ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: D
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: D ~|~MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: D ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: E
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: E ~|~MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: E ~|~
SERVICE: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: F
DESCRIPTION: MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: F ~|~MOVED TO: 527994C LINE: F ~|~
SERVICE: REPLACE CAMSHAFT TIMING GEAR ON GS
DESCRIPTION: REPLACE CAMSHAFT TIMING GEAR ON GS ~|~DLG RECALL ~|~DLG RECALL ~|~80757 DLG DONE80759 MILES

DATE: 06/11/2014


REPAIR# 527994C
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE:
DESCRIPTION: 80000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,AD ~|~80000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,CHECK WIPERS,ROAD TEST,LUBE LOCKS AND HINGES,RESET MAINT LIGHT ~|~ ~|~80757 PERFORMED 80K SERVICE, REPLACED OIL AND FILTER, ROTATED TIRES AND SET AIR PRESSURE TO 36 PSI, FRONT TIRES MEASURED AT 8 AND 9/32S AND REARS AT 5.5/32S, FRONT BRAKES MEASURED AT 6MM AND REARS AT 5MM, BATTERY MEASURED AT 12.76 VOLTS, STATE INSPECTION80000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,AD
SERVICE: 80759
DESCRIPTION: 80759 ~|~MILEAGE OUT ~|~ ~|~80757 MILEAGE OUT IS 80,759
SERVICE: ALIGNMENT (56186556)
DESCRIPTION: ALIGNMENT (56186556) ~|~ALIGNMENT (56186556) ~|~ ~|~80757 PERFORMED 4 WHEEL ALIGNMENT304:
SERVICE: FREED UP RIGHT REAR BRAKE CALIPER
DESCRIPTION: FREED UP RIGHT REAR BRAKE CALIPER ~|~[OTHER]: R/R CALIPER IS FROZEN (56186850) ~|~ ~|~80757 FREE'D UP R/R CALIPER1:
SERVICE: MOUNT AND BALANCE 2 TIRES
DESCRIPTION: MOUNT AND BALANCE 2 TIRES ~|~TIRES - 2 RUN FLAT: NEED PRICE FOR 2 TIRES. 225/50RF17 DUNLOP SP SPORT 5000M A/S DSST (56186360) ~|~ ~|~80757 MOUNTED AND BALANCED 2 TIRES943:
SERVICE: REFER TO REPAIRS ON LINE F
DESCRIPTION: REFER TO REPAIRS ON LINE F ~|~MIGHT NEED 1 NEW TIRE. PLEASE CHECK. ~|~ ~|~80757 AT INSPECTION FOUND THAT THE R/F TIRE HAS A BUBBLE IN THE SIDEWALL AND THE R/R TIRE HAS A SLICE IN THE SIDEWALL76930 MILES

DATE: 09/09/2013


REPAIR# 0496710
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 75000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPACE AIR FILTER,REPLA
DESCRIPTION: 75000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPACE AIR FILTER,REPLA ~|~75000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPACE AIR FILTER,REPLACE CABIN FILTER,REPLACE WIPERS,SMART KEY BATTERY,FUEL CLEANER,TOP FLUIDS,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,ROADTEST ~|~ ~|~76929 75K COMPLETE, BEST TIRES IN FRONT.
SERVICE: 76930
DESCRIPTION: 76930 ~|~MILEAGE OUT
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~ ~|~76929 COMPLETE.
SERVICE: WILL REQUIRE REMOVAL OF DASH TO FURTHER DIAGNOSE, EST.$1368 TO START
DESCRIPTION: WILL REQUIRE REMOVAL OF DASH TO FURTHER DIAGNOSE, EST.$1368 TO START ~|~CUSTOMER STATES OCCASIONALLY THERE IS A CLICKING NOISE FROM CENTER CONSOLE ~|~ ~|~76929 NOISE IS COMING FROM BEHIND THE DASH. DASH HAVE TO REMOVE FOR DIAGNOSTIC.71050 MILES

DATE: 08/13/2013


REPAIR# 0493638
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: MOUNTED AND BALANCED 1 NEW TIRE AND PLACED ON RIGHT FRONT.
DESCRIPTION: MOUNTED AND BALANCED 1 NEW TIRE AND PLACED ON RIGHT FRONT. ~|~TIRES - 1 RUN FLAT: DUNLOP SPORT 5000A/S DSST 225 50 17 (34084314) ~|~ ~|~71050 942:MOUNT AND BALANCE ONE TIRE
SERVICE: PERFORMED 70,000 MILE SERVICE
DESCRIPTION: PERFORMED 70,000 MILE SERVICE ~|~70,000 MILE SERVICE. REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,CHECK WIPERS,ROAD TEST,LUBE LOCKS AND HINGES,RESET MAINT LIGHT / / ~|~ ~|~71050 70K DONE ALL TIRES SET AT 36PSI TIRE WEAR AT 7/32 5/32 5/32 5/32 BATT, 12.66V F/B5MM R/B7MM STICKER 10-1369688 MILES

DATE: 06/22/2013


REPAIR# 0487653
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS
DESCRIPTION: LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS ~|~LEXUS LOANER : NO CHARGE FOR LEXUS, TOLLS OR MILEAGE DRIVEN ~ PLEASE REPLACE GAS YOU USE AS COURTESY TO NEXT GUEST ~ $30 FEE PER 1/4 TANK FOR GAS NOT REPLACED APPLIES TO ALL CLIENTS ~
SERVICE: PERFORMED 4 WHEEL ALIGNMENT
DESCRIPTION: PERFORMED 4 WHEEL ALIGNMENT ~|~ALIGNMENT: . (31143450) ~|~ ~|~69687 304:
SERVICE: REPLACED DRIVERS FRONT TIRE DUE TO DAMAGED SIDEWALL
DESCRIPTION: REPLACED DRIVERS FRONT TIRE DUE TO DAMAGED SIDEWALL ~|~C/S DRIVERS FRONT TIRE HAS DAMAGE TO THE SIDEWALL. PLEASE CHECK. / /67347 MILES

DATE: 02/26/2013


REPAIR# 0475121
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 65000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,
DESCRIPTION: 65000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES, ~|~65000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,CHECK WIPERS,ROAD TEST,LUBE LOCKS AND HINGES,RESET MAINT LIGHT ~|~ ~|~67346 PERFORMED 65K SERVICES
SERVICE: 67347
DESCRIPTION: 67347 ~|~MILEAGE OUT
SERVICE: BRAKE CALIPER REPLACEMENT - REAR: LEDFT REAR CALIPER ASSY, (25105993)
DESCRIPTION: BRAKE CALIPER REPLACEMENT - REAR: LEDFT REAR CALIPER ASSY, (25105993) ~|~BRAKE CALIPER REPLACEMENT - REAR: LEDFT REAR CALIPER ASSY, (25105993) ~|~ ~|~67346 REPLACED LEFT REAR CALIPER
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~ ~|~67346 DONE59160 MILES

DATE: 08/31/2012


REPAIR# 0455565
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 59160
DESCRIPTION: 59160 ~|~MILEAGE OUT ~|~ ~|~59157 END 59160/M.
SERVICE: 60000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE
DESCRIPTION: 60000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE ~|~60000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE FLUID,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,WIPER INSERTS,LUBE ALL LOCKS AND HINGES,CLEAN THROTTLE,REPLACE FILTERS / / ~|~ ~|~59157 PERFORM 60K M/S. FRONT BRAKE 7MM. REAR BRAKE 6MM. NORMALLY 3MM REPLACE THE BRAKE. TIRES 7/32IN AND 35 PSI. NORMALLY 3/32IN REPLACE T HE TIRES. STICKER 10/12. BATTERY 12.65V. SERVICE FOUND RIGHT REAR WHEEL BENT . MAY NEED SEND OUT FOR REPAIR OR REPLA
SERVICE: INSTALL NITROGEN IN ALL TIRES INCLUDING SPARE
DESCRIPTION: INSTALL NITROGEN IN ALL TIRES INCLUDING SPARE ~|~INSTALL NITROGEN IN ALL TIRES INCLUDING SPARE ~|~ ~|~59157 INSTALL NITROGEN IN ALL TIRES.
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~ ~|~59157 RESET THE MAINT LIGHT.50113 MILES

DATE: 03/01/2012


REPAIR# 0435032
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 45000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPACE AIR FILTER,REPLA
DESCRIPTION: 45000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPACE AIR FILTER,REPLA ~|~45000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPACE AIR FILTER,REPLACE CABIN FILTER,REPLACE WIPERS,SMART KEY BATTERY,FUEL CLEANER,TOP FLUIDS,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,ROADTEST ~|~ ~|~50112 COMPLETE 45K SERVICE SI 10/2012 BATTERY 12.65 VOLTS TIRE TREAD FRONT 8/32 REAR 7/32 BRAKE PADS FRONT AND REAR 7MM RESET ALL TIRE PRESSURE 36PSI RESET ALL LIGHTS TOP OFF FLUIDS
SERVICE: EFI SERVICE (FUEL INJECTION SERVICE) (10579148)
DESCRIPTION: EFI SERVICE (FUEL INJECTION SERVICE) (10579148) ~|~EFI SERVICE (FUEL INJECTION SERVICE) (10579148) ~|~ ~|~50112 326: EFI SERVICE COMPLETED.
SERVICE: FOG LIGHT - ASSEMBLY: DRIVER SIDE FOG LAMP (10578952)
DESCRIPTION: FOG LIGHT - ASSEMBLY: DRIVER SIDE FOG LAMP (10578952) ~|~FOG LIGHT - ASSEMBLY: DRIVER SIDE FOG LAMP (10578952) ~|~ ~|~50112 697: REPLACED DAMGED DRIVERS FOG LAMP ASSEMBLY.
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~ ~|~50112 RESET ALL LIGHTS40062 MILES

DATE: 10/27/2011


REPAIR# 0421580
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 40000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,
DESCRIPTION: 40000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES, ~|~40000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,CHECK WIPERS,ROAD TEST,LUBE LOCKS AND HINGES,RESET MAINT LIGHT ~|~ ~|~40061 COMPLETE 40K SERVICE. BRAKES AT 8.0MM ALL AROUND. TIRES AT 8/32 ALL AROUND. SI DUE AT 10/2012. BATT IS AT 12.68. SET ALL TIRE PRESSURES TO 34PSI.
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~ ~|~40061 RESET ALL MAINT LIGHTS.
SERVICE: SET ALL TIRES TO PROPER PRESSURE
DESCRIPTION: SET ALL TIRES TO PROPER PRESSURE ~|~CUSTOMER STATES TIRE PRESSURE LIGHT IS ON ~|~ ~|~40061 AT INSPECTION FOUND ALL TIRES SLIGHTLY LOW ON AIR. SET ALL TIRE PRESSURES TO WINTER SETTINGS OF 36PSI.36447 MILES

DATE: 03/02/2011


REPAIR# 0394561
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: MOUNT AND BALANCE 4 RUNFLAT TIRES
DESCRIPTION: MOUNT AND BALANCE 4 RUNFLAT TIRES ~|~MOUNT AND BALANCE 4 RUNFLAT TIRES ~|~ ~|~36446 MOUNTED AND BALANCED FOUR TIRES.
SERVICE: PERFORM 4-WHEEL ALIGNMENT
DESCRIPTION: PERFORM 4-WHEEL ALIGNMENT ~|~PERFORM 4-WHEEL ALIGNMENT ~|~ ~|~36446 PERFORMED FOUR WHEEL ALIGNMENT.
SERVICE: PERFORMED 35,000 MILE SERVICE
DESCRIPTION: PERFORMED 35,000 MILE SERVICE ~|~35000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,CHECK WIPERS,ROAD TEST,LUBE LOCKS AND HINGES,RESET MAINT LIGHT / / ~|~ ~|~36446 35K SERVICE. INSP. 8/11. TIRES AT 5/32 IN CENTER BUT DIOWN TO SECONDARY RUBBER ON INSIDE. RIGHT REAR TIRE ALSO HAD BUBBLE IN SIDEWALL. BRAKES AT 8.0MM IN FRONT AND 6.0MM IN REAR. SET TIRE PSI TO 35. BATTERY AT 12.65 VOLTS.
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~ ~|~36446 RESET MAINT LIGHTS.29437 MILES

DATE: 02/15/2011


REPAIR# 0392670
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 30000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE
DESCRIPTION: 30000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE ~|~30000 MILE SERVICE,OIL AND FILTER CHANGE,ROTATE AND BALANCE TIRES,REPLACE BRAKE FLUID,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,WIPER INSERTS,LUBE ALL LOCKS AND HINGES,CLEAN THROTTLE BODY,ROADTEST / / ~|~ ~|~29436 COMPLETED 30K TIRES FRONT 6/32 REAR 6/32 ALL TIRES STARTTING TO WEAR ON INNER EDGE, BRAKES FRONT 8MM REAR 6MM SI 8/11 TIRE PRESSURE 36PSI BATTERY 12.78V ODO. 29,436 REPLACED AIR FITLER REPLACED A/C FITLER REPLACED WIPER INSERTS
SERVICE: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT
DESCRIPTION: RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT ~|~ ~|~29436 RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHTS27914 MILES

DATE: 12/09/2010


REPAIR# 0384505
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: ALE REPL COMP SPRINGS & LASH ADJUSTERS FOR GS 350
DESCRIPTION: ALE REPL COMP SPRINGS & LASH ADJUSTERS FOR GS 350 ~|~ALE REPL COMP SPRINGS & LASH ADJUSTERS FOR GS 350 ~|~ALE ~|~27912 ALE COMPLETE
SERVICE: ENTERPRISE
DESCRIPTION: ENTERPRISE ~|~ENTERPRISE
SERVICE: NO LOANER/ USED ENTERPRISE
DESCRIPTION: NO LOANER/ USED ENTERPRISE ~|~CUSTOMER REQUESTED A LOANER26399 MILES

DATE: 09/16/2010


REPAIR# 0376078
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 25000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,
DESCRIPTION: 25000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES, ~|~25000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,CHECK WIPERS,ROAD TEST,LUBE LOCKS AND HINGES,RESET MAINT LIGHT / / ~|~ ~|~26398 PERFORMED 25 K SERVICE ROTATED TIRES SET TO 35 PSI DEPTH 7 32NDS BRAKES FRONT 10 MM REAR 8 MM REPLACED OIL AND FILTER LUBED DOORS BATTERY GOOD 540 CCA AT 12.6 V S.I. DUE 8 /11
SERVICE: SYSTEM IS WORKING AS DESIGNED
DESCRIPTION: SYSTEM IS WORKING AS DESIGNED ~|~CUSTOMER STATES AFTER PASS LEAVES SEAT, THE SEAT BELT LIGHT/BELL CONTINUES TO GO ON, HAD TO BUCKLE SEAT BELT FOR IT TO STOP ~|~ ~|~26398 CHECKED OPERATION OF LIGHT AND WARNING ALL WORKING PROPERLY HOWEVER THER IS A SLIGHT DELAY AFTER GETTING OUT THIS IS NORMALL21807 MILES

DATE: 03/09/2010


REPAIR# 0355266
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 20000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,
DESCRIPTION: 20000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES, ~|~20000 MILE REPLACE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE TIRES,SET TIRE PRESSURE,INSPECT BRAKES,TOP ALL FLUIDS,ADD FUEL CLEANER,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,CHECK WIPERS,ROAD TEST,LUBE LOCKS AND HINGES,RESET MAINT LIGHT / / ~|~ ~|~21806 COMPLETED 20K TIRES FRONT 8/32 REAR 7/32 BRAKES FRONT 10MM REAR 6MMSI 8/10 TIRE PRESURE 36PSI BATETRY 12.78V ODO. 21,80614699 MILES

DATE: 02/15/2010


REPAIR# 0352735
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: COMB: OPPOSITE SIDE
DESCRIPTION:
SERVICE: F.DSC 1-SD INCL;R&R DSC PAD
DESCRIPTION: F.DSC 1-SD INCL;R&R DSC PAD ~|~INSTALL S.O.P PARTS FOR BRAKE SQUEEK CONCERN ~|~BRAKES SQUEEK WHEN COLD REPLACED PADS, SHIMS AND ROTORS ON FRONT PER BULLETIN L-SB-0121-08 ~|~14697 C= BRAKES SQUEEK WHEN APPLIED. C= BRAKE ROTORS AND PADS,NEED TO BE REPLACED PER TSB. R= PERFORM TSB #L-SB-0040-09. OP CODE: 473011. .7HRS. 473011A. .4HRS. T1=36. T2=83.
SERVICE: LOANER CAR...CUSTOMER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PARKING TICKETS AND TOLLS
DESCRIPTION: LOANER CAR...CUSTOMER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PARKING TICKETS AND TOLLS ~|~LOANER CAR...CUSTOMER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PARKING TICKETS AND TOLLS / /14656 MILES

DATE: 02/08/2010


REPAIR# 0352213
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 15000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPLACE AIR FILTER,REPL
DESCRIPTION: 15000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPLACE AIR FILTER,REPL ~|~15000 MILES SERVICE, OIL AND FILTER SERVICE,ROTATE TIRES,REPLACE AIR FILTER,REPLACE CABIN FILTER,REPLACE WIPERS,SMART KEY BATTERY,FUEL CLEANER,TOP FLUIDS,LEXUS MULTI PT INSPECTION,ROADTEST / / ~|~ ~|~14654 FINSIHED 15K TIRES FRONT 7/32 REAR 7/32 BRAKES FRONT 7MM REAR 7MM SI 8/10 TIRE PRESSURE 36PSI BATETRY 12.78V ODO. 14,654 REPLACED WIPER INSERTS REPLACED AIR FILTER ERPLACED A/C FILTER
SERVICE: BULLETIN TO REPLACE FRONT PADS, SHIMS AND ROTORS WITH UPDATED PARTS, NEED TO SPE
DESCRIPTION: BULLETIN TO REPLACE FRONT PADS, SHIMS AND ROTORS WITH UPDATED PARTS, NEED TO SPE ~|~C/S FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS CUSTOMER HEARS BRAKE SQUEAK WHEN COASTING TO A STOP, NOT HEARD ON A HARD STOPOP ~|~ ~|~14654 NECESSARY TO SPECIAL ORDER BRAKE PARTS,PER TSB.
SERVICE: COMPLETE
DESCRIPTION: COMPLETE ~|~CUSTOMER IS GOING TO BE TRAVELING PUTTING ON ABOUT 8000 MILES , CAN MAIT REMINDER BE SET FOR 8000 MILES ~|~ ~|~14654 SET NAV. MAINTENANCE REMINDER FOR 8,000 MILES.10011 MILES

DATE: 06/05/2009


REPAIR# 0326872
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: PERFORMED 10,000 MILE SERVICE
DESCRIPTION: PERFORMED 10,000 MILE SERVICE ~|~PERFORM 10,000 MILE SERVICE-CHANGE ENGINE OIL AND FILTER,ROTATE AND INSPECT TIRES,INSPECT BRAKE SYSTEM AND MEASURE PADS,INSPECT AIR AND CABIN FILTER,PERFORM LEXUS MULTI-POINT INSPECTION,RESET MAINTENANCE LIGHT,ROAD TEST / / ~|~ ~|~10011 SI 8\09 BATTERY TESTED 12.65V TIRE PRESSURE 35PSI BRAKES ARE 8MM TIRES ARE 8\32 COMPLETED 10K4932 MILES

DATE: 03/17/2009


REPAIR# 0318842
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 5,000 MILE SERVICE
DESCRIPTION: 5,000 MILE SERVICE ~|~5,000 MILE SERVICE ~|~PERFORMED 5000 MILE SERVICE ~|~4932 5K DONE ALL TIRES SET TO 34PSI TIRE WEAR AT 11/32 BATT. 12.68V STICKER 8-09 F/B 10MM R/B10MM1096 MILES

DATE: 09/22/2008


REPAIR# 0302671
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: 1,000 MILE SERVICE
DESCRIPTION: 1,000 MILE SERVICE ~|~1,000 MILE SERVICE ~|~PERFORMED 1000 MILE SERVICE ~|~1096 COMPLETED 1,000 MILE SERVICE.25 MILES

DATE: 08/14/2008


REPAIR# 0298925
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: MOBILE SERVICE
DESCRIPTION: MOBILE SERVICE ~|~INV# 13048 PREOWNED TOWING17 MILES

DATE: 07/29/2008


REPAIR# 0297268
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Watertown
SERVICE: PRE-DELIVERY RECHECK
DESCRIPTION: PRE-DELIVERY RECHECK ~|~PRE-DELIVERY RECHECK ~|~PERFORM PDI RECHECK16 MILES

DATE: 04/15/2008


REPAIR# 0027992
REPORTED BY: Lexus of Southampton
SERVICE: PRE-DELIVERY SERVICE FOR USA ALL ALTITUDES
DESCRIPTION: PRE-DELIVERY SERVICE FOR USA ALL ALTITUDES ~|~PRE-DELIVERY SERVICE FOR USA ALL ALTITUDES
Old 10-09-16, 04:48 AM
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Older ES's are a lot like camry's, jump on the GS! Both are very reliable, drive them both and youll see GS is more luxurious.
Old 10-11-16, 08:33 PM
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GS all the way
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GS, definitively..
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GS, hands down. Driven an ES330 and a 350; both were great cars, but just didn't feel like anything special. GS is a lot more fun to drive.
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At that mileage just make sure the water pump is replaced, aisan (actually oem) ebay water pump is 100 bucks and 2-3 hr install time.
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I'm currently in the same situation as the OP. I've previously owned a 2005 ES330 and am looking for a smooth, comfortable and reliable car.
I just sold my old Accord, which had so much better throttle response and steering feedback than anything I've driven from Toyota.

I just got back from a test drive of an ES350. The ride was very soft, steering smooth, cabin muted, engine strong but only at high RPM's and it took a while to get there. There's also noticeable torque steer. I did drive a GS350 last week. Its got great power, and I love that RWD push (instead of a handful of torque steer). The steering feedback wasn't that great, and the GS is a big car, at least compared to the Accord. There was also significant throttle lag, which was the main reason I gave away my ES330.

I've done the math between the two, the purchase price, insurance and even gasoline aren't that much different in cost. I'm just wondering if the extra maintenance of a more proprietary Lexus-only platform would be worth it over the ES350, as most reviews of the GS350 put it behind its class performance wise.
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2010 Honda accord is bigger than a GS, the ES is just barely bigger than a GS, but more roomy. GS is not a big car... it is a heavy car, but definitely not big, interior space OR trunk space so I am not sure what you were driving (this is based on 2010 models, the new Accord and ES got bigger, the GS not so much, but this is a 3gen GS forum so im sticking to 2010 size)
Also, I am not sure what matters to you, if you are looking for "performance" I am surprised if the GS is "behind" the ES, with both more power to weight ratio, and a more effective power train (RWD or AWD) not only will it take off with less traction loss, but it will just continue to pull ahead after.

I had my 2010 GS serviced for fuel pump recall, they gave me a 2015 ES loaner... I nearly lost control on the first onramp because of how differently the two cars handle and how used to the GS I was. the stability control on the ES had to cut out the gas pedal for me to recover in the turn. The GS AWD may not be sports car, but it is planted you can drive that car like a psycho with confidence. and even at that it is faster than the ES.

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