2016-2020 4th GS side F Sport emblem position
03-06-23, 08:53 AM
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2016-2020 4th GS side F Sport emblem position
Hello,
My car is 2018 GS300.
I just convert my car from Non F-sport to F-sport Front bumper grille.
It looks such beautiful.
And I decide to order the F sport emblem stick on both left and right fender.
I am wondering if anyone who has an F-Sport version of 4th GS can help to measure out the exact position for those emblem.
Thank you so much
My car is 2018 GS300.
I just convert my car from Non F-sport to F-sport Front bumper grille.
It looks such beautiful.
And I decide to order the F sport emblem stick on both left and right fender.
I am wondering if anyone who has an F-Sport version of 4th GS can help to measure out the exact position for those emblem.
Thank you so much
Last edited by amsden6832; 03-06-23 at 09:00 AM.
03-06-23, 10:28 AM
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Poser move. Bumpers and emblems don't make it an Fsport.
It would be like someone putting a GS-F fender on an Fsport then wanting to badge it accordingly.
Not a think wrong with making a car look the way you want it, but to badge it is not cool.
If you upgrade the suspension, exhaust, change the interior and then you have an F-Sport.
It would be like someone putting a GS-F fender on an Fsport then wanting to badge it accordingly.
Not a think wrong with making a car look the way you want it, but to badge it is not cool.
If you upgrade the suspension, exhaust, change the interior and then you have an F-Sport.
Last edited by Nalod; 03-06-23 at 10:33 AM.
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03-06-23, 10:53 AM
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Poser move. Bumpers and emblems don't make it an Fsport.
It would be like someone putting a GS-F fender on an Fsport then wanting to badge it accordingly.
Not a think wrong with making a car look the way you want it, but to badge it is not cool.
If you upgrade the suspension, exhaust, change the interior and then you have an F-Sport.
It would be like someone putting a GS-F fender on an Fsport then wanting to badge it accordingly.
Not a think wrong with making a car look the way you want it, but to badge it is not cool.
If you upgrade the suspension, exhaust, change the interior and then you have an F-Sport.
Last edited by peasodos; 03-06-23 at 11:01 AM.
03-06-23, 12:33 PM
#5
Yeah this forum has it's fair share of people putting GSF or F-Sport parts on their GS. In many cases fake GSF parts made by lower quality aftermarkets. Then there are people that just like to put upper trim badges or floor mats to "style" their car. This is a trend I consider rice. As the cars get older it becomes more affordable to ricers. I use to be one myself in my 20's lol, but now all about that OEM+ look.
Im at a light and a wrapped GS350 pulls up next to me. Im guessing wrapped in some lime green color, nice wheels, lowered, exhaust, very well done. He wants a piece of me. He lowers window and trying to get my attention. Im with wife and we trying not to laugh. This kid put a lot of time and money in his car.
I'm in my new to me 2019 LS500. 411 HP, 440 of torque. 0-60 Factory spec of 4.6 seconds. im not interested. He is baiting me. I don't want to hurt his feelings. Really, im good. content. Stock. My LS is very comfy and chill.
The takes off. Then slows downs. Next light he calling me grampa. Now, its all good fun, not nasty stuff and these kids were in line just out for fun. I lower window and give them thumbs up. Flip to Sport Plus, Did my gas-brake launch and smoke them.
Next light they want to do it again. I say no, They ask what I got in my grampa car, I responded "Just look it up and give respect"....we all had a good laugh.
Wife asked me how this happened? I said the GS is wonderful Grand touring and I it handles really well, but since non tubo can't be "tuned". I had to explain what that meant.
She said "but it looks and sounds so fast!" I said yes, and maybe it handles a bit better than stock but not much to get it faster.
Grampa car got cred that night.
Lesson: Don't badge
03-06-23, 02:29 PM
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Hello,
My car is 2018 GS300.
I just convert my car from Non F-sport to F-sport Front bumper grille.
It looks such beautiful.
And I decide to order the F sport emblem stick on both left and right fender.
I am wondering if anyone who has an F-Sport version of 4th GS can help to measure out the exact position for those emblem.
Thank you so much
My car is 2018 GS300.
I just convert my car from Non F-sport to F-sport Front bumper grille.
It looks such beautiful.
And I decide to order the F sport emblem stick on both left and right fender.
I am wondering if anyone who has an F-Sport version of 4th GS can help to measure out the exact position for those emblem.
Thank you so much
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03-06-23, 02:49 PM
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Yeah this forum has it's fair share of people putting GSF or F-Sport parts on their GS. In many cases fake GSF parts made by lower quality aftermarkets. Then there are people that just like to put upper trim badges or floor mats to "style" their car. This is a trend I consider rice. As the cars get older it becomes more affordable to ricers. I use to be one myself in my 20's lol, but now all about that OEM+ look.
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03-08-23, 07:46 PM
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Had this happen the other day:
Im at a light and a wrapped GS350 pulls up next to me. Im guessing wrapped in some lime green color, nice wheels, lowered, exhaust, very well done. He wants a piece of me. He lowers window and trying to get my attention. Im with wife and we trying not to laugh. This kid put a lot of time and money in his car.
I'm in my new to me 2019 LS500. 411 HP, 440 of torque. 0-60 Factory spec of 4.6 seconds. im not interested. He is baiting me. I don't want to hurt his feelings. Really, im good. content. Stock. My LS is very comfy and chill.
The takes off. Then slows downs. Next light he calling me grampa. Now, its all good fun, not nasty stuff and these kids were in line just out for fun. I lower window and give them thumbs up. Flip to Sport Plus, Did my gas-brake launch and smoke them.
Next light they want to do it again. I say no, They ask what I got in my grampa car, I responded "Just look it up and give respect"....we all had a good laugh.
Wife asked me how this happened? I said the GS is wonderful Grand touring and I it handles really well, but since non tubo can't be "tuned". I had to explain what that meant.
She said "but it looks and sounds so fast!" I said yes, and maybe it handles a bit better than stock but not much to get it faster.
Grampa car got cred that night.
Lesson: Don't badge
Im at a light and a wrapped GS350 pulls up next to me. Im guessing wrapped in some lime green color, nice wheels, lowered, exhaust, very well done. He wants a piece of me. He lowers window and trying to get my attention. Im with wife and we trying not to laugh. This kid put a lot of time and money in his car.
I'm in my new to me 2019 LS500. 411 HP, 440 of torque. 0-60 Factory spec of 4.6 seconds. im not interested. He is baiting me. I don't want to hurt his feelings. Really, im good. content. Stock. My LS is very comfy and chill.
The takes off. Then slows downs. Next light he calling me grampa. Now, its all good fun, not nasty stuff and these kids were in line just out for fun. I lower window and give them thumbs up. Flip to Sport Plus, Did my gas-brake launch and smoke them.
Next light they want to do it again. I say no, They ask what I got in my grampa car, I responded "Just look it up and give respect"....we all had a good laugh.
Wife asked me how this happened? I said the GS is wonderful Grand touring and I it handles really well, but since non tubo can't be "tuned". I had to explain what that meant.
She said "but it looks and sounds so fast!" I said yes, and maybe it handles a bit better than stock but not much to get it faster.
Grampa car got cred that night.
Lesson: Don't badge
For sure you don't know there are a few 4.4sec 0-60 IS350 and GS350 out there. On this forum and other places well documented.
Who told you the 2GR V6 could not be Tuned because it was non turbo? The 4.4sec 2GR V6's are in fact Tuned also, and are n/a. lol!
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03-09-23, 08:33 AM
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If not, I learned something new today!
For sure our lime green encounter did not have it.
No doubt throw enough money there is a kit?
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03-09-23, 02:38 PM
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It is possible to tune almost any engine, but tuning NA engines is substantially less cost/labor efficient than tuning factory forced induction engines, so many feel it is not worth it - hence "can't be tuned".
An off-the-shelf tune for a factory turbo engine can result in increases from 50 to 100hp for just $600.00. The same 50hp increase from an NA engine could require thousands of dollars in breathing (airbox, intake manifold, headers, high flow or deleted catalytic converters) parts plus the $600.00 tune to ensure adequate and proper fueling for the additional airflow. Also, factory forced induction engines are often somewhat overbuilt to reduce the risk of catastrophic detonation. You can run rich all day, but you can only run lean once.
RR Motorsports sells a supercharger kit for the 2GR-FSE 3.5L NA V6 found in the IS/RC/GS 350, which substantially increases power at the cost of weight, heat, and longevity/durability.
There is a small but dedicated community here that is committed to extracting additional power from the 2GR-FSE without forced induction. The aftermarket support for these engines is fairly weak, but the largest gains appear to be from headers and ported intake manifolds. I have seen dynos as high as 330whp using E85, but there are probably less than 10 IS/RC/GS making that level of NA power in the United States.
As an aside, I would love to see a properly ported intake manifold with flow matched runners, as shown on a flow bench. I wonder how much variation there is between cylinders with the handful of homebrew ported intake manifolds out there - large variations could result in a couple cylinders running lean/hot and eventually failing.
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03-09-23, 04:53 PM
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Sounds like you ran into a GS 350 with a loud exhaust. Adding volume is easy, adding power is hard. However, do not sleep on RWD 2IS 350s. They would trap over 102mph in the 1/4 mile at sea level, thanks in part to aggressive gearing. I know from experience, running my GTOs at Atco Dragway back in 2007/2008.
It is possible to tune almost any engine, but tuning NA engines is substantially less cost/labor efficient than tuning factory forced induction engines, so many feel it is not worth it - hence "can't be tuned".
An off-the-shelf tune for a factory turbo engine can result in increases from 50 to 100hp for just $600.00. The same 50hp increase from an NA engine could require thousands of dollars in breathing (airbox, intake manifold, headers, high flow or deleted catalytic converters) parts plus the $600.00 tune to ensure adequate and proper fueling for the additional airflow. Also, factory forced induction engines are often somewhat overbuilt to reduce the risk of catastrophic detonation. You can run rich all day, but you can only run lean once.
RR Motorsports sells a supercharger kit for the 2GR-FSE 3.5L NA V6 found in the IS/RC/GS 350, which substantially increases power at the cost of weight, heat, and longevity/durability.
There is a small but dedicated community here that is committed to extracting additional power from the 2GR-FSE without forced induction. The aftermarket support for these engines is fairly weak, but the largest gains appear to be from headers and ported intake manifolds. I have seen dynos as high as 330whp using E85, but there are probably less than 10 IS/RC/GS making that level of NA power in the United States.
As an aside, I would love to see a properly ported intake manifold with flow matched runners, as shown on a flow bench. I wonder how much variation there is between cylinders with the handful of homebrew ported intake manifolds out there - large variations could result in a couple cylinders running lean/hot and eventually failing.
It is possible to tune almost any engine, but tuning NA engines is substantially less cost/labor efficient than tuning factory forced induction engines, so many feel it is not worth it - hence "can't be tuned".
An off-the-shelf tune for a factory turbo engine can result in increases from 50 to 100hp for just $600.00. The same 50hp increase from an NA engine could require thousands of dollars in breathing (airbox, intake manifold, headers, high flow or deleted catalytic converters) parts plus the $600.00 tune to ensure adequate and proper fueling for the additional airflow. Also, factory forced induction engines are often somewhat overbuilt to reduce the risk of catastrophic detonation. You can run rich all day, but you can only run lean once.
RR Motorsports sells a supercharger kit for the 2GR-FSE 3.5L NA V6 found in the IS/RC/GS 350, which substantially increases power at the cost of weight, heat, and longevity/durability.
There is a small but dedicated community here that is committed to extracting additional power from the 2GR-FSE without forced induction. The aftermarket support for these engines is fairly weak, but the largest gains appear to be from headers and ported intake manifolds. I have seen dynos as high as 330whp using E85, but there are probably less than 10 IS/RC/GS making that level of NA power in the United States.
As an aside, I would love to see a properly ported intake manifold with flow matched runners, as shown on a flow bench. I wonder how much variation there is between cylinders with the handful of homebrew ported intake manifolds out there - large variations could result in a couple cylinders running lean/hot and eventually failing.
The Gearing on the IS350, GS350 and RC350 will shock some cars up top along with Mods. I haven taken cars with greater hp that are just not suppose to happen, with Videos to prove. If I can ever get finish with my custom mid pipe and rear exhaust (working on quite but High Flow), I will disclose the numbers I am seeing on both the Dyno and 0-60 and 1/4. I also have to get back to the Dyno and retune the D3 Custom Pro Tuner I have for the latest stage of mods.
I laugh at seeing the GS get thrown under the bus being a long time Lexus owner. In the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gen GS, there were some 500hp to 1000+hp GS's here on CL no less. Both in the 2JZ, and even some Turbo'd and S/C'd V8 430's and 460's, and Nitrous. I ran a GS460 with Nitrous150 shot a few years back myself. The Performance owners have gone away from CL mostly due to the new type 4th Gen GS owners just being wheels and drops transition lol!
Last edited by jgscott; 03-09-23 at 07:09 PM.
03-09-23, 05:25 PM
#13
I would love to see you get the Tune for that LS500. In addition to the extra hp the cars drivability is so much smoother and better too most times with a Tune. Here is a Vid to get some insight as to the 2GR V6 capabilities. Now also when we look at cost, lets say a GS350 a few years old is $26k give or take. My thinking is subtract the $26k from lets say a 2019 LS500 at $55K. Gives you $32K difference. $32k to play with for Performance.....or less. What's too expensive to Performance Mod?
The 2GR V6
FI
The 2GR N/A
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03-09-23, 06:36 PM
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The LS500 you have now is indeed impressive! Did not mean to come across the wrong way just advising of something that seems to float around inaccurate you likely heard elsewhere. Even a 4.4 car can be had by a 4.7 or more car if the conditions are right including the Driver. See my other post above to answer the questions you have. I have owned 2 LS's in the past myself.
I would love to see you get the Tune for that LS500. In addition to the extra hp the cars drivability is so much smoother and better too most times with a Tune. Here is a Vid to get some insight as to the 2GR V6 capabilities. Now also when we look at cost, lets say a GS350 a few years old is $26k give or take. My thinking is subtract the $26k from lets say a 2015 LS500 at $55K. Gives you $32K difference. $32k to play with for Performance.....or less. What's too expensive to Performance Mod?
The 2GR V6
FI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWg22MsT2cU
The 2GR N/A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUMV_-jDDp8
I would love to see you get the Tune for that LS500. In addition to the extra hp the cars drivability is so much smoother and better too most times with a Tune. Here is a Vid to get some insight as to the 2GR V6 capabilities. Now also when we look at cost, lets say a GS350 a few years old is $26k give or take. My thinking is subtract the $26k from lets say a 2015 LS500 at $55K. Gives you $32K difference. $32k to play with for Performance.....or less. What's too expensive to Performance Mod?
The 2GR V6
FI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWg22MsT2cU
The 2GR N/A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUMV_-jDDp8
If I had new LS500 money, I'd have a GS-F for the summer and a GR Corolla for the winter.
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