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Thanks for the math. Naturally that coverage is based on the fact that on average they pay out less than they take in. So you have to decide if you're going to be the person that gets a higher payout vs. the extended warranty cost.
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My main interest was getting others opinions and to see if any one had purchased it (especially on an AWD) and how well their experience went with getting all the tires replaced. If it wasn't for prorating the 3 good tires I likely wouldn't even consider it - the price vs the payback are way too close IMO without that.
I also just hadn't seen/experienced a program like this either so I was curious.
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Have owned Michelin - Conti - Bridgestone - bought the Pirelli P7 AS Plus 3 exactly 1 yr ago - per all the positive and favorable comments on this Forum - BEST overall tire I have ever owned!
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My new to me 2020 GS450h came with different branded cheapy tyres.
Anyone recommend a summer performance tyres that are quiet and gives great grip in the wet? I'm not racing, so I don't need a super sticky tyre that needs heat to get the best out of them.
My previous daily I was last running Falken FK510 and they were perfect for a summer high performance daily and can handle the 550Nm of instant torque for the Q50 hybrid. I did burn through a few of set of the Falken. The OEM on the Q50 hybrid were Dunlop runflats and they were awful.
If I remember correctly the Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres where double the price of the Falken but I don't think its double the performance of the Falken.
We don't have snow here, so its summer high performance tyres all year round.
Anyone recommend a summer performance tyres that are quiet and gives great grip in the wet? I'm not racing, so I don't need a super sticky tyre that needs heat to get the best out of them.
My previous daily I was last running Falken FK510 and they were perfect for a summer high performance daily and can handle the 550Nm of instant torque for the Q50 hybrid. I did burn through a few of set of the Falken. The OEM on the Q50 hybrid were Dunlop runflats and they were awful.
If I remember correctly the Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres where double the price of the Falken but I don't think its double the performance of the Falken.
We don't have snow here, so its summer high performance tyres all year round.
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Another question I have for folks who purchase through Discount Tire....
Has anyone purchased and used Discount's "Certificate for Repair, Refund, or Replacement"? Last time I did tires I don't remember this even existing.
This basically seems to be an even better Road Hazard Warranty above and beyond the normal one that's included when you buy tires from Discount. For the Pirellis in the size above it runs $38/tire - about $152 for the set.
I opted not to do it at the time of purchase or today when they were installed but it can be added for 30 days.
The thing that was a bit intriguing to me was how the program supposedly works on a car with AWD. In the scenario where one tire had irreparable damage (like a side wall puncture) you would get:
1 tire fully replaced with the same tire (under standard warranty this tire would usually be prorated)
3 remaining good tires would be prorated (under standard warranty these tires do not get prorated - you would need to pay to replace all 3 at the normal price)
On an FWD or RWD car I likely wouldn't purchase - it's easy enough to replace two and be done. I've actually had the above scenario on a different AWD car but luckily the tires were close enough to needing replacement it wasn't a big deal.
Note - this is what I was told, I have not read this in the actual contract (but I trust the guys at the Discount I go to). They also said that in a situation where there was no Discount near by and you had to buy a tire they would refund you that amount as well.
Has anyone purchased and used Discount's "Certificate for Repair, Refund, or Replacement"? Last time I did tires I don't remember this even existing.
This basically seems to be an even better Road Hazard Warranty above and beyond the normal one that's included when you buy tires from Discount. For the Pirellis in the size above it runs $38/tire - about $152 for the set.
I opted not to do it at the time of purchase or today when they were installed but it can be added for 30 days.
The thing that was a bit intriguing to me was how the program supposedly works on a car with AWD. In the scenario where one tire had irreparable damage (like a side wall puncture) you would get:
1 tire fully replaced with the same tire (under standard warranty this tire would usually be prorated)
3 remaining good tires would be prorated (under standard warranty these tires do not get prorated - you would need to pay to replace all 3 at the normal price)
On an FWD or RWD car I likely wouldn't purchase - it's easy enough to replace two and be done. I've actually had the above scenario on a different AWD car but luckily the tires were close enough to needing replacement it wasn't a big deal.
Note - this is what I was told, I have not read this in the actual contract (but I trust the guys at the Discount I go to). They also said that in a situation where there was no Discount near by and you had to buy a tire they would refund you that amount as well.
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My new to me 2020 GS450h came with different branded cheapy tyres.
Anyone recommend a summer performance tyres that are quiet and gives great grip in the wet? I'm not racing, so I don't need a super sticky tyre that needs heat to get the best out of them.
My previous daily I was last running Falken FK510 and they were perfect for a summer high performance daily and can handle the 550Nm of instant torque for the Q50 hybrid. I did burn through a few of set of the Falken. The OEM on the Q50 hybrid were Dunlop runflats and they were awful.
If I remember correctly the Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres where double the price of the Falken but I don't think its double the performance of the Falken.
We don't have snow here, so its summer high performance tyres all year round.
Anyone recommend a summer performance tyres that are quiet and gives great grip in the wet? I'm not racing, so I don't need a super sticky tyre that needs heat to get the best out of them.
My previous daily I was last running Falken FK510 and they were perfect for a summer high performance daily and can handle the 550Nm of instant torque for the Q50 hybrid. I did burn through a few of set of the Falken. The OEM on the Q50 hybrid were Dunlop runflats and they were awful.
If I remember correctly the Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres where double the price of the Falken but I don't think its double the performance of the Falken.
We don't have snow here, so its summer high performance tyres all year round.
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My new to me 2020 GS450h came with different branded cheapy tyres.
Anyone recommend a summer performance tyres that are quiet and gives great grip in the wet? I'm not racing, so I don't need a super sticky tyre that needs heat to get the best out of them.
My previous daily I was last running Falken FK510 and they were perfect for a summer high performance daily and can handle the 550Nm of instant torque for the Q50 hybrid. I did burn through a few of set of the Falken. The OEM on the Q50 hybrid were Dunlop runflats and they were awful.
If I remember correctly the Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres where double the price of the Falken but I don't think its double the performance of the Falken.
We don't have snow here, so its summer high performance tyres all year round.
Anyone recommend a summer performance tyres that are quiet and gives great grip in the wet? I'm not racing, so I don't need a super sticky tyre that needs heat to get the best out of them.
My previous daily I was last running Falken FK510 and they were perfect for a summer high performance daily and can handle the 550Nm of instant torque for the Q50 hybrid. I did burn through a few of set of the Falken. The OEM on the Q50 hybrid were Dunlop runflats and they were awful.
If I remember correctly the Michelin pilot sport 4s tyres where double the price of the Falken but I don't think its double the performance of the Falken.
We don't have snow here, so its summer high performance tyres all year round.
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I did a quick lookup of average daily highs and lows for NWS in July and what I saw was that it gets down into the mid 40s most days there. That's right at the line of where the summer tires can greatly lose traction because the compounds get hard like plastic at that temp. Even without snow, that can cause a significant difference in something like stopping distance in an emergency situation. Obviously you know you're exact location/weather better than I could assume just from looking at typical averages online - just something to consider.
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So, I have a set of these Pilot all-season tires that I switched out for the Pilot 4S. The performance is phenomenal; I don't miss the 4S as much as I thought I would. My one complaint is that there is considerably more vibration with the A/S compared to the 4S at higher speeds (90+), but it's smooth in the 70-80 range.
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