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Well, thank you! I had my hair and makeup all done up real purdy like, so being all dolled-up I had to top it off my good looks with some sexy new eyeglass frames.
"That aside, I did drive the 16, the ride is quite a lot stiffer than Sport+ mode in GS350 F-Sport.
you should’ve driven a 17+. They put the AVS in those years and made the ride a lot smoother (in “normal” mode). I test drove a 16 and 17 back to back, and it was night and day difference. The 16 felt like it was setup for the track, only.
I took this pic like 7 years ago & such a sleeper sedan IMO. Get one while you can & as for me I am sticking with the V8 IS500.
I agree! Get one while you can, and, while they are still (relatively) young. The GS F is the TRUE ultra-high performance GS model of the line--and still ultra-reliable too. No other manufacturer can even come close in that dept. If the wife is driving what she wanted, then you get what you want. I'm bought a 2018 GS, but it's an F-Sport (i.e. Fake Sport) about 5 months ago and I am regretting my decision at this point. I'm trying to (possibly) get into another vehicle altogether, but I'm getting static from the wife. Knowing what I know now, if I could do I all over again, it would be GS F all the way!
^^ 2-Years ago I purchased my 1st ever n/a V8 sedan an IS500 Launch Edition (1st one sold in my state). Ever since then I am hooked on the 2UR-GSE like a drug lol
So everyone, was car and driver high when they wrote this in 2016?: “The GS F leans in corners, a byproduct of the slightly soft, supremely comfortable ride.”
So everyone, was car and driver high when they wrote this in 2016?: “The GS F leans in corners, a byproduct of the slightly soft, supremely comfortable ride.”
It's all relative - relative to the degree or the amount of suspension 'loading' (compression) the car has. For example, a NASCAR Winston Cup car that is setup for a course track race is extremely firm almost to the point the car feels like it has no suspension compression travel at all, yet the car's suspension must have some degree of 'loading' so the race car's driver can purposely 'load' his car's suspension in the turns and benefit from this 'loading' in the turns' apex and when he applies engine power and torque coming out of the turns. The last thing a race car driver wants is a car with a no travel rock-hard suspension with no compression, but he certainly doesn't want too much either - - so it's the degree or amount that is important. For Car & Driver to write that the GS F 'leans in corners', that is probably quite accurate. But the GS F is nowhere close to being a dedicated track car or even designed to compete on a track at the same level as a completely different car like the Corvette which is more at home on a track.
The GS F is what it is - a heavy 2-ton luxury 4-door front-heavy V-8 'sport' sedan with a 8-speed hunt 'n-shift automatic transmission that has a double wishbone front suspension on coil springs - a car that is purposely designed to appeal to a very small group of younger buyers looking for such a car with a faux race-ready persona.
The GS F should absolutely not to be confused with some of the far more capable production performance cars that the folks at Car & Driver often test and write articles about. Does the GS F lean - of course it leans some - but does it lean too much for what it really is? That's up to the very small group of younger buyers looking for such a car with a faux race-ready persona to determine!
Car makers typically design into a car's suspension the amount of compression damping and rebound control it has to satisfy normal driving conditions. Compression damping is typically used to maximize the chassis’ grip and control the unsprung weight. For racing purposes good grip surfaces like a typical race track requires more compression damping, while rain or slick surface conditions call for very little compression damping. However rebound control, on the other hand, is what determines body roll speed (a.k.a. 'lean'). While suspension compression holds the tires to the ground, rebound control is what manages the weight of the car.
Most any production made car, especially a heavy 4-door sedan, is going to be designed for normal driving conditions, so it will always have a significant amount of 'lean' by design. Just because the carmaker of a 4-door sedan adds a V-8 engine and big brakes and touts it as a performance car doesn't mean it's going to perform anything like a race car on a track...
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^^ 2-Years ago I purchased my 1st ever n/a V8 sedan an IS500 Launch Edition (1st one sold in my state). Ever since then I am hooked on the 2UR-GSE like a drug lol
My 350 is highly modded with suspension parts and is so nice in the corners but that Lexus V8 makes me want one so bad every time I hear it. Also gotta love those huge fender vents....goals!
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