4GS mega thread (UPDATED; preview drives, specs, more interior pics)
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it could be related to music you guys listen, i just came back from listening few CD's in mine, and it was kick butting ;-). Never tried LS's sytem, but RX's ML was nowhere as good.
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So pretty much everyone wins. Europe gets a more affordable GS300h option, and the US gets a higher performance GS500h
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http://www.motortrend.com/features/a..._gs/index.html
Not sure how accurate this is...particularly on the heels of the print edition reportedly claiming the GS-F was undecided...they changed their reporting yet again.
Not sure how accurate this is...particularly on the heels of the print edition reportedly claiming the GS-F was undecided...they changed their reporting yet again.
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An Avensis Hybrid in the top-of-the-line T Spirit trim would be about as close to a Lexus HS as a Toyota Camry XLE V6 is to a Lexus ES 350. Surely this is why Toyota Europe turned down the HS. And Europe's lower sales volumes don't justify two such closely-placed models from Toyota and Lexus.
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They should do
GS350 Entry
GSXXX with V8
GSXXX with Hybrid Powertrain
GS-F
I mean we had 300s, 400s and 430s in the second gen and 300s, 350s, 430s, 460s, 450hs. So I can't see why there can't be 4 versions
GS350 Entry
GSXXX with V8
GSXXX with Hybrid Powertrain
GS-F
I mean we had 300s, 400s and 430s in the second gen and 300s, 350s, 430s, 460s, 450hs. So I can't see why there can't be 4 versions
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Yet another discrepancy in the online vs print edition of this Motor Trend article: The online version claims that the 4th-gen GS will be lighter than the current one due to the use of carbon fiber in its structure, while the print version states that it'll be lighter because of increased use of aluminum... ![Confused](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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With Toyota already having announced that they'll be building an Auris Hybrid (essentially a rebodied Matrix) in the UK, it's hardly a stretch to picture them also offering a hybrid version of the Avensis that is also built in the same plant.
An Avensis Hybrid in the top-of-the-line T Spirit trim would be about as close to a Lexus HS as a Toyota Camry XLE V6 is to a Lexus ES 350. Surely this is why Toyota Europe turned down the HS. And Europe's lower sales volumes don't justify two such closely-placed models from Toyota and Lexus.
An Avensis Hybrid in the top-of-the-line T Spirit trim would be about as close to a Lexus HS as a Toyota Camry XLE V6 is to a Lexus ES 350. Surely this is why Toyota Europe turned down the HS. And Europe's lower sales volumes don't justify two such closely-placed models from Toyota and Lexus.
My point was mainly about a low end GSh (300h possibly) being sold in Europe for those that want a fuel efficient midsized LEXUS sedan at a reasonable price. The fact that it's RWD would be a plus for most Europeans
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In the US we have the HS and soon to come ESh and ISh, so there's no need for an affordable GSh.
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Toyota has made it cheaper than ever before to get into a Lexus.
do you honestly expect all manufacturers to sell more of their expensive models
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GS350 and GS460 compete more with the Hyundai Genesis and Infiniti M35/45 than 5 series.
You do know that GS is in the same segment as the 5-series, E-class and A6 right? Do you know how much those cost? No? Well then... Google is your friend...
Also, if the GS460 is pointless then the 550i, E550 and A6 4.2 are all pointless... Is that what you are trying to say?
Also, if the GS460 is pointless then the 550i, E550 and A6 4.2 are all pointless... Is that what you are trying to say?
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A proverbial ES hybrid would be around $45K leaving no room for a downmarket GSh in the US. I've said it many times before but a downmarket GS can be offered in Europe because there would be no overlap there.
So pretty much everyone wins. Europe gets a more affordable GS300h option, and the US gets a higher performance GS500h
So pretty much everyone wins. Europe gets a more affordable GS300h option, and the US gets a higher performance GS500h
Difference between base GS and ES is 10k... difference between ESh and GSh with same equipment would be the same.
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