STIG

Just get M5 and call it a day. simple.

TF109B

The M5 is heavy, at least 4300lbs. The GS-F will probably cost a pretty penny, probably competitively priced in this segment. That's the logical choice. Wonder what the new M5 will run? 90k? I'd think so. I'm guessing if the GS-F is priced competitively with its competition, it'll be around 80K. I think they can throw in some carbon fiber and some other lightweight materials, maybe take out some of the sound deadening will keep the weight down too? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

GiantsFan

iTrader: (9)

Basically, if Lexus can be close in power and equal/better the m5 in and 0-60/lap times for a few grand less (or even the same price for that matter) the GS-F will be a winner in my book.

But it NEEDS to match the performance of the M5.

STIG

80K? 90K? what's the difference? if you are really going to have to count the 10K difference, then it's not really for you.

STIG

numbers can only tell you one thing. There's a whole lot more than just matching a 0-60 numbers or stupid ring time.

GiantsFan

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I don't care how rich you are... 10k is a lot of money.

Rich people didn't get rich my wasting money. If Lexus has a 10k advantage in pricing... It WILL catch peoples attention.

CDNROCKIES

That's not even true in the segment below. The M3 is $10K more than the IS F and outsells it by leaps and bounds even though it's priced higher.

The GS F will only succeed (if it's actually built) if it matches or exceeds the existing competitors (RS6/M5/E63) and is priced lower.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

90k what, base? e60 m5 mostly at 100k already.

and i agree with STIG, if you are a true buyer who can afford these cars, 85-100k don't really matter much (keep in mind, that's msrp). when i shopped for my m3, i didn't care if it's 50k (isf) or 78k e93 m3.

rominl

iTrader: (4)

isf is 10k cheaper than m3 on paper, do you see more isf on the road? i am not saying real buyers won't look at the 10k, but the 10k will hardly be the deciding factor. if one does, then to me he/she is stretching on the purchase

spwolf

i wonder if by the time new GS is out, anyone even cares about GS-F due to the high cost of gas.

Blackraven

Some will and maybe some won't........but certainly I will care

BUT IMHO, that will only happen if and only if it has at least 500 hp at minimum. Otherwise, I would lose interest

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

Exactly! I am waiting for the Bugatti Galibier, I mean if I am going to spend $140k on a M5, what's another $1.4 millions you know? If you are counting penny like that, you can't afford it anyway

1000 hp is better then the 600 hp in the F10 M5

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

I am guessing the F10 M5 will base at $100k~$105k, fully loaded at ~$120k.

X5 M is like $105k, fully loaded 650i convertible is $110k.

The F10 M5 is closely related to the X5 M, and historically speaking M5 is similarily price to a 650i convertible.

Yeah I am pretty sure Lexus is not making a 550+ hp, $110k+ M5 fighter. They already having a very hard time selling the $105k+ LS600hL flagship, I don't think they are going to make a GS at the same price level. It would be cool though.

PhilipMSPT

iTrader: (5)

The ones who buy cars such as these don't care about gas prices.

A 500+hp sport saloon won't be their only car. It will be their third or fourth car in the garage...

BNR34

iTrader: (1)

IMO, anyone that care about the price of gas, is not a $90k, 500 hp sports sedan buyer.

Unless gas get up to $20~$30 per gallon, it is not cutting into their budget.