4GS mega thread (UPDATED; preview drives, specs, more interior pics)
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Yes technically on paper, the B7 is a M7. But still technically it is not a genuine M vehicle. From BMW, you can only go as far as getting a M-sport package on the 7-series, which is similar to what Lexus is doing with the LS460 Sport, just a sport package, but no genuine full on F model.
That is true, and Lexus does model after MB more then BMW.
I do hope there is a really good LS-F in the future, it is a car that fit my needs and preferences. The current LS460 sport is not impressive to me.
That is true, and Lexus does model after MB more then BMW.
I do hope there is a really good LS-F in the future, it is a car that fit my needs and preferences. The current LS460 sport is not impressive to me.
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I'll respectfully disagree with you there, citing the upcoming Toyota Prius v / Prius+. In Japan (the only market thus far confirmed to receive both versions), the 7-seater with lithium-ion batteries is about $8000 more than the 5-seater with nickel-metal hydride batteries. Granted, that jump kept Toyota from offering the third-row seat in the North American Prius v, but I think it's one that the Lexus GS can manage.
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I'll respectfully disagree with you there, citing the upcoming Toyota Prius v / Prius+. In Japan (the only market thus far confirmed to receive both versions), the 7-seater with lithium-ion batteries is about $8000 more than the 5-seater with nickel-metal hydride batteries. Granted, that jump kept Toyota from offering the third-row seat in the North American Prius v, but I think it's one that the Lexus GS can manage.
The current GSh is $64k~$68k depending on options, very few people buy it the way it is. Make it $10k more, they lose more buyers. It is getting into the S400 territory.
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It is easier to put it into a lower price economy cars like a Prius and Sonata, adding $6k~$8k onto a $19k car is still manageable for some people. And those are weak Hybrid, don't need a whole lot of batteries.
You add $10k~$12k onto a $68k luxury car due to batteries, it will drive buyers away. Few people want a $80k GSh. And a $80k GSh type vehicle is on it's way, is call a Testa Model S......and it is aim for low volume.
Look at the Volt, it is a $41k econobox since it got a whole lot of lithium-ion batteries.
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I think the idea of just having one hardtop convertible model is good though, so it keep the production cost down from having fewer variations. I mean with the top up, it is as quiet and solid as a fixed top coupe, people that don't like top down motoring can just never put it down, nothing wrong with that.
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That's true, it definitely need a SC430 replacement, would be nice to have a mid size coupe too like a E-class coupe.
I think the idea of just having one hardtop convertible model is good though, so it keep the production cost down from having fewer variations. I mean with the top up, it is as quiet and solid as a fixed top coupe, people that don't like top down motoring can just never put it down, nothing wrong with that.
I think the idea of just having one hardtop convertible model is good though, so it keep the production cost down from having fewer variations. I mean with the top up, it is as quiet and solid as a fixed top coupe, people that don't like top down motoring can just never put it down, nothing wrong with that.
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I just met a guy at the company i'm currently consulting for. He worked for 15 years with Toyota Motorsport and spent his time developing and setting up their F1 test development center. Since the F1 program is no longer around, they did a lot of work on other Toyota development products. He said they're currently finishing up work on a Lexus V8 that has been fitted with a twin turbo system. I would hope that's for a GS-F
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That's true, it definitely need a SC430 replacement, would be nice to have a mid size coupe too like a E-class coupe.
I think the idea of just having one hardtop convertible model is good though, so it keep the production cost down from having fewer variations. I mean with the top up, it is as quiet and solid as a fixed top coupe, people that don't like top down motoring can just never put it down, nothing wrong with that.
I think the idea of just having one hardtop convertible model is good though, so it keep the production cost down from having fewer variations. I mean with the top up, it is as quiet and solid as a fixed top coupe, people that don't like top down motoring can just never put it down, nothing wrong with that.
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I just met a guy at the company i'm currently consulting for. He worked for 15 years with Toyota Motorsport and spent his time developing and setting up their F1 test development center. Since the F1 program is no longer around, they did a lot of work on other Toyota development products. He said they're currently finishing up work on a Lexus V8 that has been fitted with a twin turbo system. I would hope that's for a GS-F