4GS mega thread (UPDATED; preview drives, specs, more interior pics)
#1591
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Lexus really needs to make the 4GS really stunning. The new 5 series looks pretty damn good and I haven't seen the E class yet. But as far as expanding the F line to the LS, I can see Lexus doing it, but with an executive line and the long wheel base version, I'm not sure it will happen just yet. Next after the IS F and LFA should be the GS F, so we shall see how these next months go. :/
#1592
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Lexus really needs to make the 4GS really stunning. The new 5 series looks pretty damn good and I haven't seen the E class yet. But as far as expanding the F line to the LS, I can see Lexus doing it, but with an executive line and the long wheel base version, I'm not sure it will happen just yet. Next after the IS F and LFA should be the GS F, so we shall see how these next months go. :/
Indeed
![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#1593
Lexus Connoisseur
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
But Infiniti is playing it as it is so much more exciting to drive. I don't think 20 hp is that much more excitment.
I think Li-ion batteries is still VERY expensive, they can't include it in a $50k~$60k mid size full luxury sedan yet. So far, you only find Li-ion batteries in the $41k Volt econobox and those ultra expensive Tesla's vehicles, the Roadster is $120k~$160k, the S sedan will be $60k~$80k and I think it will come with less luxury then the Mh and GSh.
I think Li-ion batteries is still VERY expensive, they can't include it in a $50k~$60k mid size full luxury sedan yet. So far, you only find Li-ion batteries in the $41k Volt econobox and those ultra expensive Tesla's vehicles, the Roadster is $120k~$160k, the S sedan will be $60k~$80k and I think it will come with less luxury then the Mh and GSh.
#1594
Lexus Champion
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
S63 and S65 are kinda pointless too, yet you see them. I've heard before that Lexus has customers looking for sedans that are above the LS and above the 100K mark. If they made an F variant, or even F accessories for it, I'd bet it'd sell.
I heard about the Cologne facilities before doing 'special Lexus vehicles' when they quit F1. One of them was work on the LFA. But that's only one vehicle. They said Lexus vehicles plural
I think there may be some truth to the twin turbo V8.
I heard about the Cologne facilities before doing 'special Lexus vehicles' when they quit F1. One of them was work on the LFA. But that's only one vehicle. They said Lexus vehicles plural
![Wink](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Last edited by TF109B; 03-23-11 at 02:31 AM.
#1595
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I think Li-ion batteries is still VERY expensive, they can't include it in a $50k~$60k mid size full luxury sedan yet. So far, you only find Li-ion batteries in the $41k Volt econobox and those ultra expensive Tesla's vehicles, the Roadster is $120k~$160k, the S sedan will be $60k~$80k and I think it will come with less luxury then the Mh and GSh.
![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
#1596
#1597
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
they are li-poly... i am sure expensive Lexii will use li-ion in the future because of the packaging. hyundai didnt manage to do much here, probably because of cooling required for li-poly batteries they ended up with much smaller trunk, same as Camry.
reliability is probably the biggest worry right now, it is unknown.
reliability is probably the biggest worry right now, it is unknown.
#1598
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
They call it lithium polymer, but probably the same as lithium-ion.
See my theory here:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6245553-post929.html
See my theory here:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/6245553-post929.html
#1600
Lexus Champion
#1601
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
That depends, not always.
In most cases, that is correct.
Yeah the ISC's lines are all screwed up. The SC430 is not bad though, same as the 3-series like you mention, also the SL are good looking. But yeah the hardtop does take up more room then a soft top. But then when the hardtop is closed, the car feels as good as a fixed top.
Yes a little lighter.........not a whole lot to matter though, especially on a luxury coupe.
In most cases, that is correct.
Yes a little lighter.........not a whole lot to matter though, especially on a luxury coupe.
#1603
Moderator
![](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/ranks/rank-mod2.gif)
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I really hope it doesn't look like a combination of a Buick/baby LS...
#1604
Lead Lap
#1605
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Hey I wonder if this is the basis of what they may use for the GS for 2012, I'm really tired of not seeing anything. I WANT PICTURES! I can stand the wait.
http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_s.html
http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_s.html