4GS mega thread (UPDATED; preview drives, specs, more interior pics)
04-20-11, 05:25 AM
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04-20-11, 05:49 AM
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Tepid applause from the crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqOlrhpgm4
I think the 'design experts' sounded like "Well, they paid us a lot to speak, (or we're going to get a lot of free publicity for being on this panel) so we'll come up with abstract, artsy, high-minded nonsense that won't damage our reputation yet will keep Lexus happy."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqOlrhpgm4
I think the 'design experts' sounded like "Well, they paid us a lot to speak, (or we're going to get a lot of free publicity for being on this panel) so we'll come up with abstract, artsy, high-minded nonsense that won't damage our reputation yet will keep Lexus happy."
04-20-11, 06:52 AM
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what I found amazing was how different those tricks looked in real-life (read video). The most homely looking chick in the photo on the Lexus website actually looked the best in the video....and vice versa for the other two tricks.
glad they were able to pull in the kitchen appliance expert to build the next great Lexus.
glad they were able to pull in the kitchen appliance expert to build the next great Lexus.
04-20-11, 08:50 AM
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Tepid applause from the crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqOlrhpgm4
I think the 'design experts' sounded like "Well, they paid us a lot to speak, (or we're going to get a lot of free publicity for being on this panel) so we'll come up with abstract, artsy, high-minded nonsense that won't damage our reputation yet will keep Lexus happy."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqOlrhpgm4
I think the 'design experts' sounded like "Well, they paid us a lot to speak, (or we're going to get a lot of free publicity for being on this panel) so we'll come up with abstract, artsy, high-minded nonsense that won't damage our reputation yet will keep Lexus happy."
The unveiling was a private event so "the crowd" was not huge to begin with. Can't really have a big applause without a big crowd.
04-20-11, 09:22 AM
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Big Thanks to Kevin over at "The Lexus Enthusiast" site for the Online coverage...
Location: New York City - 4/19/11
Lexus LF-Gh Official Reveal Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqOlrhpgm4
I was lucky enough to attend the reveal, and there’s no question that the concept has plenty of production-ready polish. In my mind, there’s only a few short steps between the LF-Gh and the next-generation GS, and those steps are likely to focus exclusively on the more elaborate elements of the front & rear of the vehicle.
From Mark Templin’s comments during the introduction, it sounds like the front grille will be carried through to production in some modified toned-down form — the IS-F’ish mesh grille will likely be used in a future F-Sport variant down the line, but I think we can expect something much less divisive for the standard production model.
All in all, an exciting reveal to lead into tomorrow’s NY Auto Show, which I’ll be covering live throughout the day. Stay tuned!
Lexus LF-Gh Caravan Photos
As part of the build up to the official reveal of the LF-Gh co*cept tonight, Lexus brought out four wrapped vehicles that illustrate the process behind creating a new vehicle — here they are:
Pencil
Marker
CAD
Black Cover
This is a really cool idea — it goes from the pencil sketch of the initial designer to a more stylized rendering, then it’s recreated and revised in CAD, until it’s finally ready to have the black cover pulled off. The wraps were impressive in their detail, creating an “unreal” look that was especially striking at a distance.
With the caravan wrapped up, it’s time for the real thing — the LF-Gh will have its big launch tonight, which will be available for online viewing later on in the evening. Details to follow.
Enjoy,
Joe Z
Location: New York City - 4/19/11
Lexus LF-Gh Official Reveal Video
Originally Posted by krew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdqOlrhpgm4
I was lucky enough to attend the reveal, and there’s no question that the concept has plenty of production-ready polish. In my mind, there’s only a few short steps between the LF-Gh and the next-generation GS, and those steps are likely to focus exclusively on the more elaborate elements of the front & rear of the vehicle.
From Mark Templin’s comments during the introduction, it sounds like the front grille will be carried through to production in some modified toned-down form — the IS-F’ish mesh grille will likely be used in a future F-Sport variant down the line, but I think we can expect something much less divisive for the standard production model.
All in all, an exciting reveal to lead into tomorrow’s NY Auto Show, which I’ll be covering live throughout the day. Stay tuned!
Originally Posted by krew
As part of the build up to the official reveal of the LF-Gh co*cept tonight, Lexus brought out four wrapped vehicles that illustrate the process behind creating a new vehicle — here they are:
Pencil
Marker
CAD
Black Cover
This is a really cool idea — it goes from the pencil sketch of the initial designer to a more stylized rendering, then it’s recreated and revised in CAD, until it’s finally ready to have the black cover pulled off. The wraps were impressive in their detail, creating an “unreal” look that was especially striking at a distance.
With the caravan wrapped up, it’s time for the real thing — the LF-Gh will have its big launch tonight, which will be available for online viewing later on in the evening. Details to follow.
Joe Z
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04-20-11, 12:41 PM
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What I really like about the grill is the way mercedes angled the wire behind it where it looks like its all merging into the emblem. Superb detailing. Its hard to tell up front but from the side you can..
AS for the GS...
Word is the grill is to shock...won't make production, it will get a grill like the DJ or knic PS like below...
Also seems the intent was for sides that didn't have 1,000 creases like how everyone else is doing today. The Lexus design team feels that trend is very played out already.
AS for the GS...
Word is the grill is to shock...won't make production, it will get a grill like the DJ or knic PS like below...
Also seems the intent was for sides that didn't have 1,000 creases like how everyone else is doing today. The Lexus design team feels that trend is very played out already.
That big grill didn't do it for me. I know it may be the trend, but I still don't like it. Need something else to break up the void a little...
04-20-11, 04:08 PM
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I think that if you take the Lexus logo off that first PS'd pic, it could be any Japanese car. I could easily see that photoshop wearing a Honda badge, Subaru badge, Toyota, etc. It just doesn't look like a luxury car to me. It looks like a faceless appliance.
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04-21-11, 08:01 PM
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The GS was shown 34 months BEFORE the XJ debuted. Ian Callum knows what influenced him..here is some reading....
Yup. Ian Callum, Jags' head designer who did the XF and did the past Astons loves the GS. He has openly praised it and has been interviewed about the GS/XF similarity before.
http://books.google.com/books?id=sfk...s%20gs&f=false
Funny people bash the hell out of Lexus for copying but not Jaguar. Another lame double standard against Lexus.
http://www.carmiddleeast.com/getPrintDetails-2-567
Yup. Ian Callum, Jags' head designer who did the XF and did the past Astons loves the GS. He has openly praised it and has been interviewed about the GS/XF similarity before.
http://books.google.com/books?id=sfk...s%20gs&f=false
Funny people bash the hell out of Lexus for copying but not Jaguar. Another lame double standard against Lexus.
http://www.carmiddleeast.com/getPrintDetails-2-567
One final question on the XF. What do you say to criticisms it looks like the Lexus GS?
Nobody was more surprised than we were. I like the GS. I think the proportions of that car are better than many other exec cars. I'm not wild about the detailing though. But they went through the same process we’ve gone through. That car came out nine months before our car – but our design was finished when the GS was launched. Nobody was more surprised to see that similarity (if there is any) than we were. There’s no plagiarism there, it’s just coincidence. But, hey, they did a good job.
Nobody was more surprised than we were. I like the GS. I think the proportions of that car are better than many other exec cars. I'm not wild about the detailing though. But they went through the same process we’ve gone through. That car came out nine months before our car – but our design was finished when the GS was launched. Nobody was more surprised to see that similarity (if there is any) than we were. There’s no plagiarism there, it’s just coincidence. But, hey, they did a good job.
04-21-11, 09:23 PM
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The GS was shown 34 months BEFORE the XJ debuted. Ian Callum knows what influenced him..here is some reading....
Yup. Ian Callum, Jags' head designer who did the XF and did the past Astons loves the GS. He has openly praised it and has been interviewed about the GS/XF similarity before.
http://books.google.com/books?id=sfk...s%20gs&f=false
Funny people bash the hell out of Lexus for copying but not Jaguar. Another lame double standard against Lexus.
http://www.carmiddleeast.com/getPrintDetails-2-567
Yup. Ian Callum, Jags' head designer who did the XF and did the past Astons loves the GS. He has openly praised it and has been interviewed about the GS/XF similarity before.
http://books.google.com/books?id=sfk...s%20gs&f=false
Funny people bash the hell out of Lexus for copying but not Jaguar. Another lame double standard against Lexus.
http://www.carmiddleeast.com/getPrintDetails-2-567
On both counts, that's why nobody is going to bash them. Also, Jaguar are known for their car designs (apart from the Ford era ones), it is a core competency, just the way that many other things are the core competency of Lexus. So it's going to be a very unusual day when Jaguar, a car maker with a heritage of timeless design (I cannot believe how old the XK8 design is), gets bashed for coincidentally looking just a tiny bit like a Lexus when that similarity is such a minor, maybe unfortunate, feature of an overall stunning design.
I went to see one in person wondering whether it would remind me of my GS, and it didn't. Interesting how Callum says he didn't like the GS detailing and he's of course so right. The proportions might be similar but that's where the similarity ends. It's as much as a coincidence as a Japanese SUV being a similar size to a American SUV, yet somehow, with the same proportions, look at the wizardry of Callum and Jaguar compared to the Lexus design.
04-21-11, 09:30 PM
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Also, what has the XJ got to do with the GS? It's the XF we're talking about.
And the XK came out years ago and if you see an XF next to the XK, the two definitely look related, so it's clear the design is the vision he had for Jaguar:
"We’ll have three cars out there [XK, XF, XJ] that for me completely nail what Jaguar is about. That was my vision when I started 10 years ago. I take some satisfaction from that. We’ve had better results than I would have anticipated 10 years ago."
The article was April 2009 so he started all this design direction in 1999!
And the XK came out years ago and if you see an XF next to the XK, the two definitely look related, so it's clear the design is the vision he had for Jaguar:
"We’ll have three cars out there [XK, XF, XJ] that for me completely nail what Jaguar is about. That was my vision when I started 10 years ago. I take some satisfaction from that. We’ve had better results than I would have anticipated 10 years ago."
The article was April 2009 so he started all this design direction in 1999!
