4GS mega thread (UPDATED; preview drives, specs, more interior pics)
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So with all the speculation and falsehoods that Lexus salesmen have said about the GS the past 12-18 months,...are we any closer - is there confirmation from a legitimate source as to when the 4GS will appear?
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if they're on a 7 year refresh....2013 MY would likely be the new GS...probably released late spring of 2012.
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And again Lexus gets bashed all the time for "copying" no matter how legitimate the accusation or not. Here is an obvious example of Lexus being copied and its swept under the rug or every excuse in the book is made for it.
The XF isn't really stunning to me, it simply is bigger, longer GS. It is not original though it is beautiful.
The XF isn't really stunning to me, it simply is bigger, longer GS. It is not original though it is beautiful.
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Was at the dealership today and spoke to the sales manager. He showd me a document stating that the new GS will be release in January '12 with the hybrid in April '12. Redesign IS will not be release until August '13. Document only shows note of model year scheduled major changes, facelift and refresh. No details on specs.
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Was at the dealership today and spoke to the sales manager. He showd me a document stating that the new GS will be release in January '12 with the hybrid in April '12. Redesign IS will not be release until August '13. Document only shows note of model year scheduled major changes, facelift and refresh. No details on specs.
If it really is a Jan 2012 date, that means we will be seeing more news about it pretty soon.
Can any of the other dealers here verify this?
Thx
Mike
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These launch dates don't excite me given that Lexus has not shared any powertrain thinking with dealers. New car with old engines means the real new car won't be available for another year.
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Batman, I agree about the powertrains and I hope they really have something new and special.
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I really get the sense that Lexus know that they did not achieve what they should have with the 3GS and others in the current generation models.
The delay may well mean that something special is on it's way. As much as I am underwhelmed by the exterior of the new concept, the interior looked great and they are at least talking about a bold new direction. When the original LS came out, they knew they had to make it special if they were to establish themselves. I am optimistically hoping that they want to reclaim their position with something special.
The delay may well mean that something special is on it's way. As much as I am underwhelmed by the exterior of the new concept, the interior looked great and they are at least talking about a bold new direction. When the original LS came out, they knew they had to make it special if they were to establish themselves. I am optimistically hoping that they want to reclaim their position with something special.
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I'm hoping that Toyota/Lexus is really focusing on the design on the car. IMO, I feel that that is where they're falling behind the competition. They know how to make reliable cars with good value but they can't seem to get the design of the cars correct. Hate my comment all you want but it's true. Their designs are very tame and conservative. Now I'm not saying that they need to go radical but they do need to create designs where people actually say "dang, I have to have that car!" The LFA is one step in that direction but then again, it's also out of reach for 99% of the people. It's basically a showcase car for everybody except that 1%.
Toyota/Lexus needs to start "copying" BMW and Mercedes' philosophy. What I mean by this is creating cars that people "want" and not cars that people "need." BMW creates the 3 series and adds a "legitamate" sports package and then introduces an "is" package with more sport features such as the 7 speed double clutch tranny. Toyota/Lexus has the money to R&D these things. Why don't they start actually competing with the products that they claim are their competition.
I love Lexus/Toyota but they need to start offering products that I want.
What ever happened to the supposed return of the Supra. I would get that in a heartbeat if they brought that back. Toyota could have the Supra version say with a newly design 3L Inline 6 twin turbo while Lexus has the sister version with a newly updated v-8 to be sued in the upcoming IS-F. Now that would be sweet but the design needs to be sportier and basically create a sense of I want that car because the design is just hot.
Toyota/Lexus needs to start "copying" BMW and Mercedes' philosophy. What I mean by this is creating cars that people "want" and not cars that people "need." BMW creates the 3 series and adds a "legitamate" sports package and then introduces an "is" package with more sport features such as the 7 speed double clutch tranny. Toyota/Lexus has the money to R&D these things. Why don't they start actually competing with the products that they claim are their competition.
I love Lexus/Toyota but they need to start offering products that I want.
What ever happened to the supposed return of the Supra. I would get that in a heartbeat if they brought that back. Toyota could have the Supra version say with a newly design 3L Inline 6 twin turbo while Lexus has the sister version with a newly updated v-8 to be sued in the upcoming IS-F. Now that would be sweet but the design needs to be sportier and basically create a sense of I want that car because the design is just hot.
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not that there's anything wrong with that. Audi looks the most conservative, in my view. and they're a hit worldwide.
the problem is that certain lexus design elements just look awkward from certain angles. I'm able to overlook them in exchange for better reliability though.
the problem is that certain lexus design elements just look awkward from certain angles. I'm able to overlook them in exchange for better reliability though.