4GS mega thread (UPDATED; preview drives, specs, more interior pics)
08-17-11, 09:11 AM
#3796
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08-17-11, 09:13 AM
#3797
based on the leaked pics, i'm underwhelmed. if lexus wants me to change my 3GS to 4GS, they are gonna have to do a better job. nothing about the exterior styling screams "i want that now!" imho. maybe if aftermarket jdm manufacturers come out with a really awesome kit that makes the 4GS look real good.... 
but i reserve the right to change my comments after i've seen the pebble beach high res pics and see the 4GS up close and personal. 
but i reserve the right to change my comments after i've seen the pebble beach high res pics and see the 4GS up close and personal. 
I actually love it, I really shouldn't say all these bad things about it. This 4GS makes me love our 2GS Sport Design that much more. It is a classic that just can't be surpass.
08-17-11, 09:19 AM
#3798
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I think that everyone's negative judgement's will go down the drain when they officially release it tomorrow. It seems like every thing Lexus does, people will always pick out the flaws and never be satisfied.
08-17-11, 09:23 AM
#3799
I also think that quad headlights is what made the GS sort of unique in a way. Now it's just going to look like the rest of the lineup..... I'm not saying it's a bad thing, the time will tell. It's just, there was always a significant difference between ES and GS. Yes, we have not seen the ES yet, but something tells me that it will look like the rest of the lineup as well. I just don't want the GS to get lost in the middle, between the ES and LS again
08-17-11, 09:33 AM
#3800
I remembered seeing it on the cover of every auto magazines, with huge letter "300 HP, 0-60 in 6.0 SECONDS!!".
That was when the E430 had 275 hp and 540i had 286 hp, and the GS400 had a 5-speeds while all the Germans still had a 4-speeds I think. They were all way slower then the GS400. The Germans were all doing 0-60 in 6.5~6.8 range.
That was when I fell in love with the GS, and Lexus in general. I think that apply to most Lexus enthusiasts that is old enough when the GS400 came out.
If Lexus want to repeat the EPICness of the 1998 GS400, the 4GS would have to be a GS500 with a twin turbo 4.6L V8 making 450 hp with a 9 speeds auto and be handsome like a F10 5-series.
Thinking back, makes me so sad. What is happening to you, our beloved Lexus? My huge Lexus enthusiasm is slowly dying inside
Last edited by BNR34; 08-17-11 at 09:37 AM.
08-17-11, 09:55 AM
#3802
and regarding 1998, sorry but i just don't think the attitude should ever be "1998 will never happen again". to me that's like sand bagging for anything to come ahead. the aim should always be higher. i agree that it's hard to beat what lexus did on the 2gs in 1998, but at the same time i don't think lexus is impossible to do it again, at least the lexus that i have in mind.
See my above post, today's F10 550i is twin turbo 4.4L V8 with 400 hp, the W212 E550 will probably get the twin turbo 4.6L V8 with 435 hp soon. So if Lexus want to trump them like back in 1998, it needs a twin turbo V8 with 450 hp in a GS500 with a 9-speeds tranny. Do you see that happening at all?
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08-17-11, 10:03 AM
#3803
Tons of economy cars have 6-Speeds today. Entry level luxury Audi A4 got 8-Speeds now. 9 and 10 speeds tranny is in full on development from various companies, it is just a matter of time before they come out, probably very soon like within the next 2 years. If the 4GS releasing tomorrow have a 9-Speeds, that would be a 1st. But all report said it got the same 6-speeds carrying over from the 3GS.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11007192...on---9g-tronic
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...fe-rating.html
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11007192...on---9g-tronic
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...fe-rating.html
08-17-11, 10:06 AM
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Of course Lexus as a company is fully capable to repeat the epic-ness of the 1998 GS400, the question is do they want to, it doesn't feels like that is the direction they are heading at all.
See my above post, today's F10 550i is twin turbo 4.4L V8 with 400 hp, the W212 will probably get the twin turbo 4.6L V8 with 435 hp. So if Lexus want to trump them like back in 1998, it needs a twin turbo V8 with 450 hp in a GS500 with a 9-speeds tranny. Do you see that happening at all?
See my above post, today's F10 550i is twin turbo 4.4L V8 with 400 hp, the W212 will probably get the twin turbo 4.6L V8 with 435 hp. So if Lexus want to trump them like back in 1998, it needs a twin turbo V8 with 450 hp in a GS500 with a 9-speeds tranny. Do you see that happening at all?
Lexus can totally make knock-your-socks off stuff (like the LFA) if they want to. But with this new GS, it seems like they specifically didn't want to make something that stands out, at least aesthetically speaking.
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08-17-11, 10:11 AM
#3805
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Tons of economy cars have 6-Speeds today. Entry level luxury Audi A4 got 8-Speeds now. 9 and 10 speeds tranny is in full on development from various companies, it is just a matter of time before they come out, probably very soon like within the next 2 years. If the 4GS releasing tomorrow have a 9-Speeds, that would be a 1st. But all report said it got the same 6-speeds carrying over from the 3GS.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11007192...on---9g-tronic
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...fe-rating.html
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11007192...on---9g-tronic
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...fe-rating.html
08-17-11, 10:16 AM
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08-17-11, 10:17 AM
#3807
Totally agree. It's not the capability that's in question, it's the intent.
Lexus can totally make knock-your-socks off stuff (like the LFA) if they want to. But with this new GS, it seems like they specifically didn't want to make something that stands out, at least aesthetically speaking.
Lexus can totally make knock-your-socks off stuff (like the LFA) if they want to. But with this new GS, it seems like they specifically didn't want to make something that stands out, at least aesthetically speaking.
But feels like they are pushing fuel efficiency more then all out excess. Honda too, they even cancelled their V8 program and the new NSX.
The bad economy and the tsunami probably really humble them up, they want to be safe to lay low rather then go big to challenge the Europeans.
08-17-11, 10:24 AM
#3809
As a GS lover.. I am not super excited about this new model...
Someone just help me get a trunk pass-though on a 2001 430 and I will be good to go!
I got my license the year the GS400 was introduced... I will still say that 1998 was an epic year for Lexus. The new LX, the 5 speed auto and 300hp... someone take me back!
Someone just help me get a trunk pass-though on a 2001 430 and I will be good to go!
I got my license the year the GS400 was introduced... I will still say that 1998 was an epic year for Lexus. The new LX, the 5 speed auto and 300hp... someone take me back!
08-17-11, 10:27 AM
#3810
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I dont care about the wheels and wheel gap, to be honest, because new shoes/spacers/drop are must have mods anyway.
And looking at the camo'd pictures, I have lots of hope. Camo'd way better than those leaked pix. That white 'leaked pix' car just looks kinda bad, IMO....I don't even like the grille. I'd rather have the polarizing grill from the concept.
Again, I'm holding out hope. The concept looked so good, I think Lexus won't stray too far from that design, especially for the top-of-the-line models.
And looking at the camo'd pictures, I have lots of hope. Camo'd way better than those leaked pix. That white 'leaked pix' car just looks kinda bad, IMO....I don't even like the grille. I'd rather have the polarizing grill from the concept.
Again, I'm holding out hope. The concept looked so good, I think Lexus won't stray too far from that design, especially for the top-of-the-line models.