4GS mega thread (UPDATED; preview drives, specs, more interior pics)
04-23-10, 12:24 PM
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So it's been another few months and the M, 5, and E are all fully disrobed and out there. I am surprised that there haven't been any other GS news or rumors. Since auto show season is about up, I am guessing we won't see anything on the 4GS until next year...maybe in Tokyo?
04-23-10, 12:37 PM
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So it's been another few months and the M, 5, and E are all fully disrobed and out there. I am surprised that there haven't been any other GS news or rumors. Since auto show season is about up, I am guessing we won't see anything on the 4GS until next year...maybe in Tokyo?
.There was virtually no news before the IS-F was first revealed, or before the LF-A concept originally appeared
.Even before the 3GS debuted, we had very little news or rumors. Toyota traditionally keeps upcoming models and redesigns a big secret, mainly for competitive reasons.
04-23-10, 03:56 PM
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I'm not really surprised. Look back on Toyota reveals historically. Typically the less news there is about an upcoming Toyota product, the more interesting that product is .
There was virtually no news before the IS-F was first revealed, or before the LF-A concept originally appeared.
Even before the 3GS debuted, we had very little news or rumors. Toyota traditionally keeps upcoming models and redesigns a big secret, mainly for competitive reasons.
.There was virtually no news before the IS-F was first revealed, or before the LF-A concept originally appeared
.Even before the 3GS debuted, we had very little news or rumors. Toyota traditionally keeps upcoming models and redesigns a big secret, mainly for competitive reasons.
i just hope 4gs is better, far better
04-23-10, 04:54 PM
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My point is, the production ISF was a surprise announcement that most people did not expect.
The rumors were more about a V8 regular IS, not a hardcore high-performance version of the IS
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04-23-10, 06:53 PM
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04-23-10, 11:28 PM
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and yes, with the new e (step up in general) and 5 (looking very good so far), together with the current a6 and the new infiniti m(xx), the 4gs has to be significantly better than the 3gs to compete. imho, performance asides, just interior quality, design, gadgets, and space have to be improved. and performance has to step up too.
and if lexus wants to really get on par with mb and bmw (in a lot of aspects), yes, gsf is needed. and not a gsf out of the garage by 2 engineers like the isf. it has to be a well thought out car
04-24-10, 01:56 AM
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well, to be honest at the time, it was more of an elimination, unlike the ls460. 5 is ugly, e had too many problems, never like the m35, and wife said no to a6. didn't really have another choice. and i will say, compared to our 2gs, the 3gs didn't match well
and yes, with the new e (step up in general) and 5 (looking very good so far), together with the current a6 and the new infiniti m(xx), the 4gs has to be significantly better than the 3gs to compete. imho, performance asides, just interior quality, design, gadgets, and space have to be improved. and performance has to step up too.
and if lexus wants to really get on par with mb and bmw (in a lot of aspects), yes, gsf is needed. and not a gsf out of the garage by 2 engineers like the isf. it has to be a well thought out car
and yes, with the new e (step up in general) and 5 (looking very good so far), together with the current a6 and the new infiniti m(xx), the 4gs has to be significantly better than the 3gs to compete. imho, performance asides, just interior quality, design, gadgets, and space have to be improved. and performance has to step up too.
and if lexus wants to really get on par with mb and bmw (in a lot of aspects), yes, gsf is needed. and not a gsf out of the garage by 2 engineers like the isf. it has to be a well thought out car
.The LFA is actually the first F car, even though it wasn't released first. The 2IS it seems originally was not supposed to have an F version, but a few engineers made it happen.
I'm sure you don't have to worry about any future F cars being from "2 engineers out of a garage"
.If there is a GSF, then I'm sure it's been a very well though out car, like the LFA.
04-24-10, 02:43 PM
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The F brand is now an official sub-brand for Lexus, and they have a special group within Toyota working on those cars now .
The LFA is actually the first F car, even though it wasn't released first. The 2IS it seems originally was not supposed to have an F version, but a few engineers made it happen.
I'm sure you don't have to worry about any future F cars being from "2 engineers out of a garage".
If there is a GSF, then I'm sure it's been a very well though out car, like the LFA.
.The LFA is actually the first F car, even though it wasn't released first. The 2IS it seems originally was not supposed to have an F version, but a few engineers made it happen.
I'm sure you don't have to worry about any future F cars being from "2 engineers out of a garage"
.If there is a GSF, then I'm sure it's been a very well though out car, like the LFA.
with the lfa, i definitely hope they can use some of the technologies on the gsf
04-24-10, 06:29 PM
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Because there is so little information out there, it's easy to imagine in a vacuum, it could easily be the best thing since sliced bread or an interestingly styled but polarizing 4-door coupe. However, my expectations on this remain enigmatic; the ES has a predictably solid record of fulfilling a winning formula; the LS has a benchmark-setting record of being an industry leader; the GS has had a unique character but the results have been different each time around (1st, overlooked, 2nd, powerful, 3rd techy). There are a few speculative reports to guess about, plus some rumors, particularly that dealer reps have seen the 4GS, but aside from that, it's very hard to say what's going to happen. There were renderings drawn up after the LF-S premiered:
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Because there is so little information out there, it's easy to imagine in a vacuum, it could easily be the best thing since sliced bread or an interestingly styled but polarizing 4-door coupe. However, my expectations on this remain enigmatic; the ES has a predictably solid record of fulfilling a winning formula; the LS has a benchmark-setting record of being an industry leader; the GS has had a unique character but the results have been different each time around (1st, overlooked, 2nd, powerful, 3rd techy). There are a few speculative reports to guess about, plus some rumors, particularly that dealer reps have seen the 4GS, but aside from that, it's very hard to say what's going to happen. There were renderings drawn up after the LF-S premiered:
I really hope that the GS will come into it's own this generation.