mikesm

If the Entune system is superior to lexus touch in terms of Internet integration, why shouldn't it completely replace the existing lexus one? Shouldn't Lexus have the most premium system in Toyota's line?

EyeKutr

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Lexus is not as committed, I cant think of any vehicle besides the ISF that exudes performance in the lexus Lineup - LFA excluded of course

rominl

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system is pretty different from interface. touch screen vs remote touch (interface) don't have that much to do with entune. it's just like you can have mouse or touch screen, but whether you are running windows or ios, it's separate.

me myself, i see both good and bad on touch screen vs remote touch. it's a toss

mikesm

Well, my main point is that I hope Toyota does not leave us lexus users behind as they attempt to compete with sync. Lexus should be the brand that LEADS the telematics functionality competition inside Toyota.

designo

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Love the optimism around here! LOL

rominl

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agreed, but what's "behind" and what's "advanced"? that's to be decided by customers i guess. i have both lexus and other brand vehicles. like i said touch screen has their goods, but also bads. finger prints is actually only a small part of it. the problem of not able to mount the screen higher up on the dash (less distraction) and more inward (avoid glare) are two bigger problems.

i have had people in my ls460l and gs350 complaining that they can't see the screen (sun glare)

it's a tough call either way i am sure

LexLaw

That's the beauty of this forum and this thread specifically. 33 pages and still going strong without any real clue as to what the 4GS will actually look like or a definitive release date.

Yeah I'm just hoping that they learn from whatever mistakes they may have made with the IS-F, if in fact there are any. This GS-F needs to be on par with the M5 and not trail the E AMG or S6 in any capacity. They need to come out of the gate in the same manner in which they did with the 2GS when that debuted. I commend Lexus for finally shedding (albeit slowly) label as slow conservative and in some circles old man cars. This car should have been created already but with the approaching 4GS coming this will be a lovely way to round out this line up and make waves while doing so.

bigblack06

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I'm sold, I want it now!

*Batman*

When's the new M5 coming out? Maybe I'll get that one.

bigblack06

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This is the link I found for BMW M5, must say looks sick but costs an arm and a leg.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-c...d!-2011-bmw-m5
and also
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...bmw_m5-feature

*Batman*

Yes a 100k is steep. If I spent a 100k I would buy a Quattroporte not an M5.

bigblack06

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yeah agreed, but you must say it looks sexy!

LexFather

For me I've mentally decided Panamera Turbo or GS F. I cannot get the ugly Panamera out my head

Jayson

I have two people in my building that have Panamera Turbos. One is driven by an older lady driving a silver one and there's a middle aged guy who owns a completely black one that looks awesome - the whole car is black including the wheels! It's out of my price range, but I think they look amazing!

rominl

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err... m5 has been 100k since e60. and who pays msrp for these cars??? you need to get real market price for the car

and i am pretty sure you will pay more for quattroporte